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Jarvy 23rd Mar 2004 10:14

To lower the average failed 3 first time round (passed them second time). Highest 95% IFR Coms, lowest passes 75% in POF(H), Ops and Met. How lucky is that. But I am older and fly helicopters!!!

Keith.Williams. 23rd Mar 2004 12:04

In the March 2004 ATPL(A) exams the averages were as follows:

Air Law 81.4
AGK 78
Instruments 79.4
Mass & B 84
Performance 79.2
Flt Planning 82.6
HP&L 84.9
Met 79
Gen Nav 80.9
Rad Nav 83.3
Ops Proc 84.4
POF 83
VFR Comms 92.6
IFR Comms 91.2

These averages vary quite a lot month to month, so this is just a snapshot.

Capt Wannabe 23rd Mar 2004 14:52

WXMan,
Yeah got 100% in Flight Planning back in 2001 and still no job :sad:

Topgun 4122T 23rd Mar 2004 21:42

What a load of Bol**x ? who cares , Ive 9 exams out of the way and sitting the rest next month and just want to pass them aswell, after that who cares besause at the end of the day its you flying ability and who you know thats going to land you a job ..

Speevy 24th Mar 2004 06:18

Hey Derek,
just one question, are you a CFI?
Did you do the distance learning course through Oxford?

I got this feeling I might know you.....

Speevy

Pub User 25th Mar 2004 18:31

Derek

Lots of people care, some airlines may even ask you how you did in your exams. Your flying ability is only properly tested after you get the job; anything you can lay on the table to impress the interviewer gives you more chance of getting that job.

Megaton 25th Mar 2004 18:46

What you're all forgetting is the the JAR exams are significantly easier now that all the schools have a large bank of questions to work with. Now when I did the exams blah blah blah:yuk:

Slim20 25th Mar 2004 19:25

Derek - I beg to differ with you on that (unless you know the right people of course, in which case disregard!)

Airlines are on the lookout for people who will make good OPERATORS. This is a good blend of personal qualities, organisation, logical thinking, knowledge and application of SOPs, sound judgement and good decision-making. Most airline application forms will ask you questions about these qualities, not your flying ability. The most you'll get asked about flying is how many hours you have.

As Pub User says, no HR person in an airline knows what your flying's like when your CV/application lands on their desk.

Send Clowns 25th Mar 2004 22:28

Slim, Derek is basically right.

Told to me by an airline personnel manager - you are interviewed by pilots, sim checked by pilots. pilots hate groundschool. By far the most important thing is the flight tests and then sim rides. Groundschool must be passed, and obviously given two otherwise equal candidates first-time passes must be an advantage, but they mean little beyond that.

I am an ATPL ground instructor, and still i have to see his point!

High Wing Drifter 26th Mar 2004 07:07

Is it safe to generalise as to what one employer looks for over another?

Voeni 26th Mar 2004 13:37

Guys, try www.aerosolutions.be

You'll get all the questions from the JAA-Database, although you will never be able to get through them (thousands and thousands). You also have to pay but it's worth it, because no question in the exam will be unfamiliar for you.

Unfortunately, I got to know this site after I did my exams... passed it, but it was tough.

Slim20 27th Mar 2004 09:17

Send Clowns,

There has to be more to it than that - someone (usually not a pilot) has to have a reason to get past your CV or application to consider you worthy of putting through interview?

I've been through two airline interviews/sim checks as a low-houred pilot. I felt at interview it was more important that they liked you as a person, and felt that you would fit into their organisation. I definitely got the impression that this was more important for low-houred guys, as their flying skills weren't expected to be much more than basic.

Having said that, I think in the current climate, I must agree that who you know is quite important to getting to that interview in the first place......


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