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I'm chuffed
Just heard this afternoon rhs 757 JMC out of Manchester starting a week on Monday! I cannot quite believe it! I can't even get drunk I'm on nights tonight!
As people are sure to ask, 940hrs TT 700 P1 multi piston with an AOC air charter company. C.V. sent in August last year, then every month with 2 calls per month. I targeted this airline only, as it's who I wanted, where I wanted, flying what I wanted. It DOES work. Push yourselves and you WILL make it.
Good luck to all, and if you're down the pub tonight have one for me as I can't!
PP
ps I hear there are some ATP Cadets starting at the same time.....any of you out there?
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As people are sure to ask, 940hrs TT 700 P1 multi piston with an AOC air charter company. C.V. sent in August last year, then every month with 2 calls per month. I targeted this airline only, as it's who I wanted, where I wanted, flying what I wanted. It DOES work. Push yourselves and you WILL make it.
Good luck to all, and if you're down the pub tonight have one for me as I can't!
PP
ps I hear there are some ATP Cadets starting at the same time.....any of you out there?
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yeah nice one pete! let all us wannabes in on the big secret. how long have you had you CPL for and is it possible do you think to get a job with an airline with JMC with minimal hours and a frozen ATPL? Im on the way up and Im damn gonna make it!
how do you mean ATP cadets? (you mean new graduates??)
how do you mean ATP cadets? (you mean new graduates??)
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JMC ask a minimum of 700hrs TT.
By ATP Cadets I mean newly qualified ATP Academy Graduates....ie 250hrs Frozen ATPL. They are referred to by JMC as 'Cadets' once placed. Yes, in answer to your question, plenty of jet operators take low hours direct entry f/o's, but the problem you have is that there are so many 250hr frozen ATPL's chasing the few jobs offered for this experience level. Do not give up and DO apply to the ATP Academy when you qualify, it is a very good scheme with a number of airlines who accept their 'cadets'.....in my opinion it is probably your best chance of a jet job with 250hrs. Keep up the effort it's worth it.
PP
ps forgot to answer your question about my CPL. I.R. passed January 1999. No job, Instructor rating May 1999, first job (not instructing, but through a contact whilst on the course)June 1999.
Keep the hours moving, anything. If you don't and you're not lucky when you qualify it soon becomes increasingly difficult to get an interview.
PP
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JMC ask a minimum of 700hrs TT.
By ATP Cadets I mean newly qualified ATP Academy Graduates....ie 250hrs Frozen ATPL. They are referred to by JMC as 'Cadets' once placed. Yes, in answer to your question, plenty of jet operators take low hours direct entry f/o's, but the problem you have is that there are so many 250hr frozen ATPL's chasing the few jobs offered for this experience level. Do not give up and DO apply to the ATP Academy when you qualify, it is a very good scheme with a number of airlines who accept their 'cadets'.....in my opinion it is probably your best chance of a jet job with 250hrs. Keep up the effort it's worth it.
PP
ps forgot to answer your question about my CPL. I.R. passed January 1999. No job, Instructor rating May 1999, first job (not instructing, but through a contact whilst on the course)June 1999.
Keep the hours moving, anything. If you don't and you're not lucky when you qualify it soon becomes increasingly difficult to get an interview.
PP
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Congratulations on getting such a great job. How about telling us which AOC charter outfit you were working for to get all those hours. And how was it to work for.
Cheers and appreciate the help.
Serbs
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Congratulations on getting such a great job. How about telling us which AOC charter outfit you were working for to get all those hours. And how was it to work for.
Cheers and appreciate the help.
Serbs
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Edinburgh Air Charter Ltd., based at, well you can probably guess!
Excellent firm, excellent employer, probably the best piston twin taxi company in the UK for conditions with some exceptional veriety of flying; mainly up and down the UK into all the major destinations, including Heathrow and Gatwick(that gets the spotters out in their droves!) and accross into Europe as far as Germany, often Norway, Holland, Denmark etc, and of course the Glasgow 'Flying Eye' for Radio Clyde, another great bunch of people and great fun to do - VFR in the zone with plenty of steep turns and sick pax!
It may be worth a cv to them but with JAR Ops looming you will need 700hrs TT to fly single crew, I was lucky when I joined it wasn't an issue but most definately is now, so unless you are very close to that figure don't waste the stamp! Sorry to be the bearer of that bad news as I'm sure if you all had 700hrs you would probably be snapped up by a regional. This will pose a problem for other small taxi outfits as time moves on due to not being able to find that experience and then not being able to retain it.
Once again, thanks for all your encouragement, I'll be in Wannabees for some time yet as I don't really feel qualified to post anywhere except here and questions yet!
PP
ps Deeko01, my last 'EYE' on Friday so get some good weather ordered! I don't want to have to de-ice on my last trip...oh and see if you can get a couple of celebs for pax, I'm fed up with the radio station prize winners! Barf!
pps for those who are thinking of doing single crew it means just that.....take the enquiries in the middle of the night, quote for the job, give them an 'earliest airborne' time, drive to the airport, pick up some catering/newspapers on your way (if pax), get your own weather, do your own plogs, arrange your own handling, arrange fuel, check opening hours and availability, arrange handling at destination(s)and fuel if required, de-ice yourself (without a rig), A-check, meet and greet pax, load the a/c yourself and produce W&B schedule, fly it (that's the good bit, into EGLL at 9am approaching at 120kts, sorry all you ATC'ers down south!), act as stewardess (well not really!), deal with everything else then fill in all the paperwork when you get home (making sure you comply with duty hour limitations). Otherwise it's easy.......no wonder they want 700hrs min.
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Excellent firm, excellent employer, probably the best piston twin taxi company in the UK for conditions with some exceptional veriety of flying; mainly up and down the UK into all the major destinations, including Heathrow and Gatwick(that gets the spotters out in their droves!) and accross into Europe as far as Germany, often Norway, Holland, Denmark etc, and of course the Glasgow 'Flying Eye' for Radio Clyde, another great bunch of people and great fun to do - VFR in the zone with plenty of steep turns and sick pax!
It may be worth a cv to them but with JAR Ops looming you will need 700hrs TT to fly single crew, I was lucky when I joined it wasn't an issue but most definately is now, so unless you are very close to that figure don't waste the stamp! Sorry to be the bearer of that bad news as I'm sure if you all had 700hrs you would probably be snapped up by a regional. This will pose a problem for other small taxi outfits as time moves on due to not being able to find that experience and then not being able to retain it.
Once again, thanks for all your encouragement, I'll be in Wannabees for some time yet as I don't really feel qualified to post anywhere except here and questions yet!
PP
ps Deeko01, my last 'EYE' on Friday so get some good weather ordered! I don't want to have to de-ice on my last trip...oh and see if you can get a couple of celebs for pax, I'm fed up with the radio station prize winners! Barf!
pps for those who are thinking of doing single crew it means just that.....take the enquiries in the middle of the night, quote for the job, give them an 'earliest airborne' time, drive to the airport, pick up some catering/newspapers on your way (if pax), get your own weather, do your own plogs, arrange your own handling, arrange fuel, check opening hours and availability, arrange handling at destination(s)and fuel if required, de-ice yourself (without a rig), A-check, meet and greet pax, load the a/c yourself and produce W&B schedule, fly it (that's the good bit, into EGLL at 9am approaching at 120kts, sorry all you ATC'ers down south!), act as stewardess (well not really!), deal with everything else then fill in all the paperwork when you get home (making sure you comply with duty hour limitations). Otherwise it's easy.......no wonder they want 700hrs min.
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Good stuff Pete, I'm a 757 SF/O at Manchester with JMC its a good company with plenty of really nice folks around. Where are you doing your sim? I'll try and forward some pointers for you.
PS - whats the dif. between a 757 and a Seneca? Answer - 7 extra cabin crew!
Well done!
PS - whats the dif. between a 757 and a Seneca? Answer - 7 extra cabin crew!
Well done!
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Good to hesr from you......not sure on the sim yet, nothing has been finalised, apparently I am being grouped with the ATP candidates so I guess the groundschool will be at Dibden and wherever they book for the sim. I hear they use Gecat, BA Cranebank and Brunei! Any pointers most welcome, if you like email me at [email protected]
My major question is where to live not knowing the area myself. I have put a post in questions for info and had a couple of responses, but any do's and don'ts would be appreciated.
Thanks again
PP
Good to hesr from you......not sure on the sim yet, nothing has been finalised, apparently I am being grouped with the ATP candidates so I guess the groundschool will be at Dibden and wherever they book for the sim. I hear they use Gecat, BA Cranebank and Brunei! Any pointers most welcome, if you like email me at [email protected]
My major question is where to live not knowing the area myself. I have put a post in questions for info and had a couple of responses, but any do's and don'ts would be appreciated.
Thanks again
PP