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Old 20th Nov 2023, 16:10
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Originally Posted by adelta
After the interview and subsequent rejection email I have received a couple of emails from Skyborne promoting their ATPL course. Unfortunately for me, the appeal for this scheme and one of the main points of it was that it was for those that don't have the funds required to self-sponsor. I don't have the funds and never will have the funds.

I get why they're doing it, they're a business but still.

Had anyone else who was rejected received feedback yet from the interviews?
I had emailed to ask about the feedback and they replied to say no feedback will be given, so back-pedalling on what was said at the assessment.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 17:23
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Originally Posted by krankenhaus145
We can debate on numbers all we like but all that the increase in numbers really means is an increase in odds (Assuming there's not any more people being pushed through to the last stage!).

Good luck everyone!
Exactly, just got to go and do your best and hope itís good enough! Wishing everyone all the best whoís attending over the next few weeks!
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 15:10
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Final assessment

For those who have completed final assessment. Could you please share how many people were at the session?
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 19:26
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For those who have completed final assessment. Could you please share how many people were at the session?
I didn't make it to the last stage, but from someone I know that did, they said there were 14 people.
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 01:34
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Hello Speedbird Family,

hope everyone is well, Iíve been keeping an eye out since September on this forum about the programme. Iím pleased to say Iíve just completed my final interview on Tuesday (21/11), wondering if any of my peers has also completed the interview over the recent week. Feel free to reach out to me!

happy flying!
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Old 23rd Nov 2023, 20:11
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Originally Posted by BASpeedy2023
Hello Speedbird Family,

hope everyone is well, Iíve been keeping an eye out since September on this forum about the programme. Iím pleased to say Iíve just completed my final interview on Tuesday (21/11), wondering if any of my peers has also completed the interview over the recent week. Feel free to reach out to me!

happy flying!
How many people were there on the Tuesday session?
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 10:38
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Since FTE interviews have already finished could you share some of the questions asked on the interview day and how many interviewers were there?
(This enquiry is about the FTE interview only)
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 21:04
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Originally Posted by fly744
Since FTE interviews have already finished could you share some of the questions asked on the interview day and how many interviewers were there?
(This enquiry is about the FTE interview only)
Even though theyíre done the exact questions shouldnít really be shared. FTE May still be using them for general admissions or other schemes such as Aer Lingus etc. You shouldnít really need to know the questions to be able to succeed at interview.
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Old 24th Nov 2023, 21:30
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Yep true AJ, hope that you have completed your interviews successfully, good luck
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Old 25th Nov 2023, 14:20
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Anyone got an update on numbers that were at their assessment day?
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Old 26th Nov 2023, 10:14
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BAW : Bit lofty of one to suggest that "you shouldn't really need to know the questions".. ! Blimey, yeah, but it helps !

Very long thread and I posted elsewhere about this. We all know just how helpful knowledge of questions can be. Knowledge of answers an outright winner. But Selectors will be floored if candidates are knowledgeable of questions and answers. Defeats the whole object.

Opening up the candidate market to a wide supply where the selection devices become open knowledge and practiced is absolute nonsense.

I have been a sponsored candidate to highly experienced Transport Commander and Selector. I quickly discovered the need to know what interviewers were looking for. Throughout my career it helped to know what Instructors and Examiners were looking for. INdeed, for UK ARB Type /Technical, unless you "knew" and "practiced" typical ARB exams, you would fail .

I know of one, for a time, highly respected and desired airline that relied heavily on a "Technical quiz". Pretty soon, those in the know had examples of all questions, all answers and knocked up envious scores of 90-6100%. Pointless eh ?

Sadly, nothing ideal and I know of one fellow selector who offered the view that if a candidate had gone to all the trouble of finding out about tests and exercises and even knew the answers, as a selection device. that candidate was showing initiative.

OK, leave out the good guys and take the cheats I retorted. Had to by my own coffee during a break in interviews.

Good luck to all though. Wicked opportunity for the lucky few.

From the Selectors point of view. A field of raw recruits with no selection criteria knowledge is the ideal but unachievable in practice.

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Old 26th Nov 2023, 11:29
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I was a BA cadet a long time ago. When I went for testing and interview with no flying experience, my outlook was that I did not want to con myself or the recruiters into thinking I was something I was not. Why commence down the route of becoming a pilot if you were not going to have the ability to make it to the end, or you were going to ultimately find the job stressful, difficult or unenjoyable? I therefore did no preparation whatsoever. I did not even prepare an answer to, “So tell me, why do you want to be a pilot?”
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Originally Posted by GS-Alpha
I was a BA cadet a long time ago. When I went for testing and interview with no flying experience, my outlook was that I did not want to con myself or the recruiters into thinking I was something I was not. Why commence down the route of becoming a pilot if you were not going to have the ability to make it to the end, or you were going to ultimately find the job stressful, difficult or unenjoyable? I therefore did no preparation whatsoever. I did not even prepare an answer to, ďSo tell me, why do you want to be a pilot?Ē
I agree with the sentiment of not conning them, but not preparing an answer to why you want to be a pilot would be ridiculous. A scheme with such a high number of applicants for small number of jobs you need to be able to display motivation and not preparing answers to the basics like that will show a lack of this.
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Old 26th Nov 2023, 19:11
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I am not saying I did not have an answer to the question. Rather that it was a genuine and honest answer, not one that was rehearsed. Nor did it contain things I thought they might like to hear. Indeed the pilot interviewer said he thought it was the best answer to the question he had ever heard. If you really want to be a pilot, why would you need to think long and hard and prepare an answer? The fact is, it was very clear throughout, that I had no clue what the testing was going to involve or what questions would be asked of me. They knew they were seeing the genuine me, and witnessing my unrehearsed capabilities. As a previous poster has already stated - that makes the recruiter’s job far easier.
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 10:25
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BAW- No you didn't say anything lofty. I was referring to a previous poster who was, in my opinion, very lofty.

GS-ALPHA ; Top candidate. In m y experience (not Hamble) as a Selection Officer, you were the type we were looking for..Rare though.
The "Why I want to be an Airline Pilot" was an essay that kicked off the Hamble procedure and was used by other Independent airlines in their Sponsored Pilot Training Schemes too.

I started mine with ;"Well, it is the only job where you get free transport from pub to pub". This was reference to the lay-over fun even if you wound up in BEA and nightstopped away from Base. Of course my opener was to get the attention of the reader (bit like a headline grab) and I then got into what, I thought, the Interviewer wanted to read.

My Interviewer was hunourless. I had no idea why the wings on a BOAC VC10 were swept back or why the tail was so high. Deep into questions on car mechanics for goodness sake he asked what was the voltage of a spark-plug. I thought it was 1-5v.

Didn't get any further than part one of the three part process but enjoyed the ride in the CAT HAmble bus between Southampton Railway Station & the School. Chics looking at us thought we were Cadets rather than orrible little wannabees !

Back to thread. I did prepare like crazy for other procedures and learned to give what I thought Boards wanted to receive. Took 5 years though.

No quarrel with those who come fully prepared and rehearsed. Not ideal though.
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 10:50
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It would be ideal to be able to assess the raw talent of all candidates and get their honest answers. However as pretty much most candidates who want a place on this scheme will practice and rehearse, then it would be unwise for the naturally talented to not do any prep as the rehearsed candidates will probably outperform them in the interview setting.

Perhaps the more effective solution would be to ask more scenario type questions that aren't easily rehearsed without knowing the question, or from a previous career, they gave you a 20page document 48hours in advance, which was then assessed at the interview to test whether you had the learning capacity required to complete the course. This felt brutal at the time, but then filtered out those who were not able to retain large volumes of information in the timescale given.

I don't think there is an easy answer for recruiters, but for candidates, preparation is essential to succeed, regardless of natural ability
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 20:09
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Latest news from BA is that there are now 100 places for this year rather than 70, good news for anyone still in the process.

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Latest news from BA is that there are now 100 places for this year rather than 70, good news for anyone still in the process.
Definitely an email that was well received! Fingers crossed!
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Old 4th Dec 2023, 14:31
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Any word on the number of people at each day for final assessment day?
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Old 4th Dec 2023, 14:56
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Originally Posted by flyguy21
Any word on the number of people at each day for final assessment day?
16 at mine. Seems to be between 12-16 on each day from what I have heard. Was told around 200 candidates (total) remaining by BA when I attended.
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