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Old 9th Sep 2022, 17:05
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About to start at BAA to do my A320 TR

Hi All,

Seems I made it very late here join the great party but nevertheless I am here now. The wealth of comments, advice and content is unbelievable. I hope some can shed a light on my issue.

I am a young 49 year old recently qualified pilot with 220 TT (EASA CPL/ME IR). Applied to the usual suspects and got nothing back, some didn't even acknowledge receipt of my details even! Anyhow it has not dissuaded me from pursuing my ambition of making it into a right hand seat.

Therefore, self sponsoring my own type rating with BAA seems to be my only option I feel as they provide a good standard of teaching (I'm told!) and that they have partners who they direct you to for job interviews. NOW, I'm not naive nor am I buttoned up the back but I genuinely would like people's comment and advice.

The thing is time is of the essence as I am due to leave for Lithuania in 2 days!

TIA
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Old 9th Sep 2022, 22:42
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Originally Posted by A320Tiko View Post
Hi All,

Seems I made it very late here join the great party but nevertheless I am here now. The wealth of comments, advice and content is unbelievable. I hope some can shed a light on my issue.

I am a young 49 year old recently qualified pilot with 220 TT (EASA CPL/ME IR). Applied to the usual suspects and got nothing back, some didn't even acknowledge receipt of my details even! Anyhow it has not dissuaded me from pursuing my ambition of making it into a right hand seat.

Therefore, self sponsoring my own type rating with BAA seems to be my only option I feel as they provide a good standard of teaching (I'm told!) and that they have partners who they direct you to for job interviews. NOW, I'm not naive nor am I buttoned up the back but I genuinely would like people's comment and advice.

The thing is time is of the essence as I am due to leave for Lithuania in 2 days!

TIA
You should read baatraining threads in this forum. Many people don't have anything good to say about them, but mostly it is focused to zero-atpl frozen. They might be good in type rating, but everyone complaines about bad management.
I think someone who went there, said in here that the interviews are quite scam. They will get you one interview and if you fail it, they wont help you anymore at all. Also the interview were not legit. Even If the company doesn't need pilots at the moment, they still have to interview you, because of the deal and that's how your one interview was wasted.
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​​He/she also mentioned that some airlines in EU don't want to hire pilot from baatraining. I wouldn't do self sponsored type rating, because even you have the tr you still have very little hours as pic, so you don't really gain anything from it. Many people in this forum says never get the tr as self sponsored, but wait till you get it from airline or in a bond from them.

but search up the baatraining in this forum, there should be a lots of talk of it.
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Old 10th Sep 2022, 07:34
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Originally Posted by Petollik View Post
You should read baatraining threads in this forum. Many people don't have anything good to say about them, but mostly it is focused to zero-atpl frozen. They might be good in type rating, but everyone complaines about bad management.
I think someone who went there, said in here that the interviews are quite scam. They will get you one interview and if you fail it, they wont help you anymore at all. Also the interview were not legit. Even If the company doesn't need pilots at the moment, they still have to interview you, because of the deal and that's how your one interview was wasted.
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​​He/she also mentioned that some airlines in EU don't want to hire pilot from baatraining. I wouldn't do self sponsored type rating, because even you have the tr you still have very little hours as pic, so you don't really gain anything from it. Many people in this forum says never get the tr as self sponsored, but wait till you get it from airline or in a bond from them.

but search up the baatraining in this forum, there should be a lots of talk of it.
Thank you for your reply. I for sure realise that there are no guarantees after getting a TR and for sure being bonded is ideal as that gives the security of employment.

Having researched all the info I can find on BAA it seems that the threads are pretty much in the past. I have 2 days to decide and may even just fly there and attend couple of days of class before commiting.

Lets see...
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Old 10th Sep 2022, 08:15
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BAA?😆😆😆
Please do your homework and search the forum before you make any decisions
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A TR without base and line training is almost worthless. The day you pass your TR you know literally just enough to scrape through. Instructor is a more respectable route.
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BAA in fairness are a lot better in the type rating department than in the ab initio department.

How and ever, I don't think this should mean anything to you. A type rating with no job attached is throwing a lot of very good money down the drain because no airline will look at you without x hrs on type (usually 500 minimum). If anything you are more complicated than if they hired a cadet with no rating, because they'll have to unteach what you know and reteach their own SOPs.

Try smartlynx directly instead, not the best in the world but in your situation you obviously cannot be fussy. They do take older guys and will get you to 500 on type
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Old 10th Sep 2022, 16:07
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Do the Instructor-Rating, make contacts and try bizjets or wait for better times.
Have heard, BAA wasn't able to provide base-training during summer months.
And do your research in this forum about the operators they will send you for a possible interview. Airlines of the Avia Group (Smartlynx, AvionExpress, etc.) and one spanish operator (Volotea?).
Doing the rating at Smartlynx instead is totally overpriced for the training they will provide (12 hrs CPT + 40hrs FFS) and if succesful, you get a contract via an agency with a daily rate less than 100 Euros until 500hrs.
That's ridiculous!
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Originally Posted by A320LGW View Post
BAA in fairness are a lot better in the type rating department than in the ab initio department.

How and ever, I don't think this should mean anything to you. A type rating with no job attached is throwing a lot of very good money down the drain because no airline will look at you without x hrs on type (usually 500 minimum). If anything you are more complicated than if they hired a cadet with no rating, because they'll have to unteach what you know and reteach their own SOPs.

Try smartlynx directly instead, not the best in the world but in your situation you obviously cannot be fussy. They do take older guys and will get you to 500 on type
Thank you for your post.

Yes I can see the flipsides of it all, but the major problem is that the cadet schemes aren't available to people my age. I've yet to hear of a 40+ pilot being selected. This is sadly configured only for the ones that are wet behind the ear in my opinion. I found out recently someone who applied to the same organisation as myself (same licences, same hours and actual lower average in exam scores) but lot younger was selected to join them and sadly I wasn't. It is what it is as they say...

I actually applied to SmartLynx but failed at interview stage (finger pointing upwards)...this is what lead me to BAA as they are training partner of theirs and they seem to have couple of affiliates that may be happy to take me on board.
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Old 27th Nov 2022, 10:32
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Have you done the training with them? How was your experience?
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