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Failed Instrument Rating Checkride

Old 8th Jun 2020, 17:18
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From the FAA Designee Handbook, page 7-28. Wobbly highlight mine


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Old 9th Jun 2020, 14:30
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I failed my FAA IR Oral first time, in my case over forgetting the rule for minimum requirements for alternates. I accepted that I went into the IR insufficiently prepared. I sorted it out, I now have an FAA IR. It cost me time and money, which was annoying - I got over it.

I actually don't have an EASA IR, although I do have an EASA CPL; I was about to convert my IR when lockdown happened - suspect it'll happen next year now, fine.

Personally I think that the anal level of rigour, and in particular the heavy use of the oral in the FAA system is massively better than the memorise/multi-choice/forget approach of EASA for all licences. And having passed both CPLs, the FAA IR, and the UK IR(R), I've no axe to grind. In particular the use of scenario based questioning in the oral, the FAA system challenges your ability to solve real flying problems much better than the EASA written exams. The level of understanding I had to demonstrate in both FAA tests was far above the memorisation to pass the umpty-ump written exams for my EASA CPL, and would have to do if I didn't already have the IFR hours for the EASA IR.

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Old 10th Jun 2020, 09:05
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Bah, both EASA and the FAA suffer from requiring rote memorisation of details that are not in the immediate recall / safety critical category. Requirement for renewal / revalidation? Who gives a shit. Look it up when you organise your renewal.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 09:14
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The FAA has a rolling currency for the IR - there is no renewal if you meet the recency requirements. Hence it's an important thing to know if you're legal or not.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 10:21
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Originally Posted by Capt Pit Bull View Post
Bah, both EASA and the FAA suffer from requiring rote memorisation of details that are not in the immediate recall / safety critical category. Requirement for renewal / revalidation? Who gives a shit. Look it up when you organise your renewal.
True, but the FAA's scenario based aspects of the oral are something EASA doesn't have to anything like the same rigour, and FAA examine rather less pointless fine detail from rote memorisation than EASA do. I still much prefer the FAA system.

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