FAA to EASA conversion
...this is the reason why the EASA ATPL exists!To act as PIC in MCC...
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I was talking about self-certifying.......
Under CAP 804 Section 4, Part Q, and Sub -part 2, for the ATPL(A) you need 1500 hours as PIC on multipilot aeroplanes - 1000 for the ATPL(H).
Under CAP 804 Section 4, Part Q, and Sub -part 2, for the ATPL(A) you need 1500 hours as PIC on multipilot aeroplanes - 1000 for the ATPL(H).
Last edited by paco; 24th Apr 2020 at 16:17.
That table is applicable only to licence validations. It comes from Subpart A of Annex III to the Aircrew Regulation: see latest consolidation dated 8 Apr 2020 (link). The table is presented on PDF p 591 of 930 in CAP 804 which remains correct for aeroplanes (the only one I checked). There is a separate provision for conversion of a third-country ICAO Annex-1 compliant ATPL to a Part-FCL ATPL: see article 8 para 4:
"Holders of an ATPL issued by or on behalf of a third country in accordance with Annex 1 to the Chicago Convention who have completed the experience requirements for the issue of an ATPL in the relevant aircraft category as set out in Subpart F of Annex I to this Regulation may be given full credit as regards the requirements to undergo a training course prior to undertaking the theoretical knowledge examinations and the skill test, provided that the third country licence contains a valid type rating for the aircraft to be used for the ATPL skill test."
"Holders of an ATPL issued by or on behalf of a third country in accordance with Annex 1 to the Chicago Convention who have completed the experience requirements for the issue of an ATPL in the relevant aircraft category as set out in Subpart F of Annex I to this Regulation may be given full credit as regards the requirements to undergo a training course prior to undertaking the theoretical knowledge examinations and the skill test, provided that the third country licence contains a valid type rating for the aircraft to be used for the ATPL skill test."
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OK - but it's still not terribly clear. If you don't have a type rating....
Applicants for Part–FCL licences already holding at least an equivalent
licence, rating or certificate issued in accordance with Annex 1 to the
Chicago Convention by a third country shall comply with all the requirements
of Annex I to this Regulation, except that the requirements of course
duration, number of lessons and specific training hours may be reduced.
[our training manual says 400 hours]
The credit given to the applicant shall be determined by the Member State to
which the pilot applies on the basis of a recommendation from an approved
training organisation.
A holder of an ICAO CPL seeking to convert to an equivalent Part-
FCL licence must comply with all the requirements of Part-FCL. They may have their
training course requirements reduced as per 1(2); but they must pass the Part-FCL
CPL theoretical knowledge exams and pass the Part-FCL Skill test as set out in
Appendix 9.
Applicants who wish to attempt the ATPL(A)
examinations must undertake the full 650 hour course of approved theoretical
knowledge instruction and pass all Part-FCL ATPL(A) examinations.
This is from the UK CAA website:
You need to be in current flying practice on your ICAO ATPL, medical and multi pilot rating and meet the experience requirements under Article 8.4 and Annex I, Part F, Article FCL 510A (b) and H (b).
There are no credits available if the rating you are using to convert on your 3rd country ICAO licence has expired, even just for a day. If the rating has expired, you should renew it.
You will need to complete all of the theoretical examinations, but are exempt the ground training course as an ICAO ATPL holder in current flying practice.
Applicants for Part–FCL licences already holding at least an equivalent
licence, rating or certificate issued in accordance with Annex 1 to the
Chicago Convention by a third country shall comply with all the requirements
of Annex I to this Regulation, except that the requirements of course
duration, number of lessons and specific training hours may be reduced.
[our training manual says 400 hours]
The credit given to the applicant shall be determined by the Member State to
which the pilot applies on the basis of a recommendation from an approved
training organisation.
A holder of an ICAO CPL seeking to convert to an equivalent Part-
FCL licence must comply with all the requirements of Part-FCL. They may have their
training course requirements reduced as per 1(2); but they must pass the Part-FCL
CPL theoretical knowledge exams and pass the Part-FCL Skill test as set out in
Appendix 9.
Applicants who wish to attempt the ATPL(A)
examinations must undertake the full 650 hour course of approved theoretical
knowledge instruction and pass all Part-FCL ATPL(A) examinations.
This is from the UK CAA website:
You need to be in current flying practice on your ICAO ATPL, medical and multi pilot rating and meet the experience requirements under Article 8.4 and Annex I, Part F, Article FCL 510A (b) and H (b).
There are no credits available if the rating you are using to convert on your 3rd country ICAO licence has expired, even just for a day. If the rating has expired, you should renew it.
You will need to complete all of the theoretical examinations, but are exempt the ground training course as an ICAO ATPL holder in current flying practice.
Theoretical
Full credit towards the requirement to complete a training course prior to undertaking the theoretical knowledge examinations may be available if you hold:- a current and valid ATPL issued by or on behalf of a third country that is ICAO compliant (see Annex 1 to the Chicago Convention).
- a validating medical for your third country licence.
- a valid multi pilot type rating on your third country licence for the same type of aircraft that will be used for the ATPL skill test (an EASA approved multi-pilot type).
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Hi everyone!
I am wondering if I can take the 14 theoretical exams in any EASA country member (for example Poland), and then go to any other EASA country (for example Spain) to do the Medical and do the flights in order to do the conversion. Is it possible?
Also: does anyone knows what is a "valid" type rating means for EASA? 12 month after last LPC... or 6 months after last LPC?
Thank you in advance!
I am wondering if I can take the 14 theoretical exams in any EASA country member (for example Poland), and then go to any other EASA country (for example Spain) to do the Medical and do the flights in order to do the conversion. Is it possible?
Also: does anyone knows what is a "valid" type rating means for EASA? 12 month after last LPC... or 6 months after last LPC?
Thank you in advance!
