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CAE easyJet MPL 2020

Old 1st Apr 2020, 09:55
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Guys this is a terrible situation but it won't last forever. I was planning to start an MPL this year (before the emergency), I really hope the market will recover in an year and we'll all be able to be back to our life. This is different to 9/11, people in that case were scared of flying, instead now after the emergency everyone will be willing to fly. It wil take a bit but aviation will recover.
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 18:08
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Hello !!

Anybody have some news ?

I just know, its locked until the 4th may, but maybe someone, have a friend who have a friend who's work for CAE and know if the program is maintain or not :/

Thanks for all your informations and be strong and patient
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Old 26th Apr 2020, 18:24
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Was under the impression its been axed, I’m due under the ATPL program but obviously everything has gone dead.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 00:23
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Originally Posted by Dylan Cimmino View Post
Hello !!

Anybody have some news ?

I just know, its locked until the 4th may, but maybe someone, have a friend who have a friend who's work for CAE and know if the program is maintain or not :/

Thanks for all your informations and be strong and patient
With the news that trainees already in the system are 'at risk' which could lead to offer termination. I would consider any plans for further programme recruitment to be paused if not cancelled.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 05:55
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Originally Posted by flyp92 View Post
Guys this is a terrible situation but it won't last forever. I was planning to start an MPL this year (before the emergency), I really hope the market will recover in an year and we'll all be able to be back to our life. This is different to 9/11, people in that case were scared of flying, instead now after the emergency everyone will be willing to fly. It wil take a bit but aviation will recover.
They may be willing, but they won't be able to afford to. Because (a) a lot won't have jobs and (b) the few airlines left will have hugely increased costs and therefore ticket prices. This is a far bigger blip than 9/11 and career prospects for most pilots not just new pilots are dead for years to come. ATPL courses will continue of course, as long as people have money to burn but I think this is the end of the MPL.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 06:45
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Originally Posted by rudestuff View Post
........ATPL courses will continue of course, as long as people have money to burn but I think this is the end of the MPL.
Rudestuff is undoubtedly correct in what he says, the (f)ATPL courses will continue as the majority already well into the process are likely to continue.
Those course members who have yet to start flying might well decide to cut their losses and stop training.

The dilemma facing those about to start is whether to continue if money is no object; the vast majority will undoubtedly think again about being an aviator, or delay sine die.

The ATOs will undoubtedly start to shrink significantly with a semi arid desert by 2021, although any military contracts will probably continue unhindered.
Attractive deals will start to emerge for the brave & the bold.


My heart goes out to all trainees but especially to the MPL customers who training have come to an abrupt stop.
Jumping to the (f)ATPL route is the only option if a professional licence still remains the immediate goal, with the shortfall of the flying training to complete.

The MPL will be the last style of course to eventually restart but only once the green shoots are well established.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 08:37
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You seriously need to avoid embarking on this course right now.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 09:25
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A moderator on this site used to refer to the "Wannabe zombie army". Judging by some posts here, it seems that its march continues unabated even now
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 10:59
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Thanks for all your answers !

But is it possible to have just facts and not empty sentences without arguments like "forget this job" or something like that ?

There are a lot of threads available to create your own way of thinking in this forum ... So if we could only have facts here from CAE or Easy, that would be great !

Thank you for understanding.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 11:03
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I noted on cae the programme is showing as closed.

Originally Posted by Dylan Cimmino View Post
Thanks for all your answers !

But is it possible to have just facts and not empty sentences without arguments like "forget this job" or something like that ?

There are a lot of threads available to create your own way of thinking in this forum ... So if we could only have facts here from CAE or Easy, that would be great !

Thank you for understanding.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 11:25
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Originally Posted by Dylan Cimmino View Post
Thanks for all your answers !

But is it possible to have just facts and not empty sentences without arguments like "forget this job" or something like that ?

There are a lot of threads available to create your own way of thinking in this forum ... So if we could only have facts here from CAE or Easy, that would be great !

Thank you for understanding.
You're on a forum page, if you want absolute validated facts then I suggest you get in contact with the ATO directly so it comes from the horse's mouth, CAE/Easy do not use these forums to communicate directly.

As said above, the programme is closed for applications, people in the system already are genuinely at risk of job offer suspension/termination, if you want that fact validated, don't take it from me, many of those finishing training have social media and are already starting to show the pressure.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 12:23
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Originally Posted by Dylan Cimmino View Post
Thanks for all your answers !

But is it possible to have just facts and not empty sentences without arguments like "forget this job" or something like that ..........g.
To paraphrase William Pitt the Younger in 1806:

“Roll up the map of Europe as it wouldn’t be needed for 10 years”
or in your case for up to 3 years....
Start training not before 2022 is my best guess

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Old 27th Apr 2020, 12:25
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Originally Posted by planesandthings View Post
You're on a forum page, if you want absolute validated facts then I suggest you get in contact with the ATO directly so it comes from the horse's mouth, CAE/Easy do not use these forums to communicate directly.

As said above, the programme is closed for applications, people in the system already are genuinely at risk of job offer suspension/termination, if you want that fact validated, don't take it from me, many of those finishing training have social media and are already starting to show the pressure.
I didn't say that I wanted an absolutely validated fact, but perhaps someone who is currently in training has more information about the situation inside the school. And I am sure that the information he will give us will be much better than "Forget this job", "avoid an integrated", "do not waste your money" etc ... We can read these things anywhere on the forum. This is why I try to refocus this thread on the information we want. I think "we" just want to talk about CAE and EZY here. That's all.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 13:55
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Originally Posted by Dylan Cimmino View Post
. This is why I try to refocus this thread on the information we want. I think "we" just want to talk about CAE and EZY here. That's all.
You seem to not fully appreciate that a Tsunami of gigantic magnitude has hit the aviation machine.
There is not a lot to talk about.....it is in ICU on life support and will be for sometime.
Transfer to High Dependancy 2021.
Back on a Ward 2022/23.
Convalescence 2024/25.

Start talking aviation after 2021. Go into higher education ~ become fluent level 6 in English until at least then.


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Old 27th Apr 2020, 14:49
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Originally Posted by parkfell View Post
You seem to not fully appreciate that a Tsunami of gigantic magnitude has hit the aviation machine.
There is not a lot to talk about.....it is in ICU on life support and will be for sometime.
Transfer to High Dependancy 2021.
Back on a Ward 2022/23.
Convalescence 2024/25.

Start talking aviation after 2021. Go into higher education ~ become fluent level 6 in English until at least then.
Thanks for the good advice, but I actually got a master and I'm a physical education instructor in high school, so, I got my plan B

I understand there is a big tsunami, we only can heard things about this on every thread in this forum. If I want things about the covid-19, I'll read on the topics who's refer to it. But, I passed the stage 2, and I just want to know what will be happen for all who's wait a stage 3...

Once again, I read many things in this forum, also about this crisis but this not the topic...
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 16:05
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Anybody who is considering opening money on Flight training of any type right now .........crazy.

I have some skin in the game in the orange machine .

If you'd like to wire the money to my account I will call you every day and tell you how wonderful you are , you will be getting much more than if you throw money at flight training for the foreseeable,
There are likely to be 1000's of qualified type and line experienced pilots floating around the world for years now . Flybe ,TCX,Monarch just the ones that have already gone and left many pilots no longer flying .

Massive furloughs and redundancies possible from BA/EZY/VS in fact everyone, even the solvent carriers = 1000's ahead of you when/if hiring ever restarts in the next 5 years.

The golden years have gone where you could remortgage mum and dads house and have an EZY command in 6 years at the age of 25. Gone for good.

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Old 27th Apr 2020, 16:59
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I second what NF has said above. Even allowing for a significant number of the soon-to-be unemployed pilots walking away from the industry forever, it's hard to see a way into the industry for a newbie for a very long time to come.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 20:11
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Originally Posted by Dylan Cimmino View Post
Perhaps someone who is currently in training has more information about the situation inside the school.
I urge you, used Linkedin, social media. There you will get a better idea and will be able to easily contact people and see the sceanrio.
But do you really think it's easy for these affected individuals to immediately talk, this is very raw for a lot of people, devastated over what probably is a life dream, people who are facing large training bills and no job for the foreseeable future, others potentially facing some form of redundancy, maybe even some form of bankruptcy or credit agreements as the loans need repaying. This isn't hype, this is the reality of when an industry is in freefall, and for a lot of people, they will not want to talk right this minute, they want advice too, this is absolutely life changing.

On here, search on the terms and endearment forum for Non TR EasyJet Recruitment, there you will see posts from 'Larki' who's son on EasyJet MPL has had his contract terminated as a result of Covid 19 by EasyJet during the Type Rating phase, it's not a nice thing to read and my thoughts are with those people facing this stark reality.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 09:05
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Says it all

https://www.eurocockpit.be/news/covi...7f8ee-56731165
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 11:46
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Originally Posted by Dylan Cimmino View Post
.......§§CAE ~ EZY§§

.........But, I passed the stage 2, and I just want to know what will be happen for all who's wait a stage 3......
Don't be surprised if you hear nothing at all........you know the answer, unfortunately......

NIL FURTHER~ the ECA link is conclusive evidence


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