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@Jolax: Try writing to the school on facebook there they are replying frequently.
@fly8ma: The reason is those are not real persons but other schools trying to compete to get more students themselves. A real not satisfied student (sadly people have to put effort into their own learning) just as you saw in this thread had no problem signing with own name..... every student at Goldwings can express his/hers opinion. The only ones who do not sign with their names are those who never even visited the school most probably other schools believing in this old fashioned mud throwing. And of course not every other school does this just some of them and they managed on the Polish forum the feat that every school got mud thrown at it except for Bartolini because they are full so no point in mud throwing.
Your school will not get better because you throw mud at other schools if you lack students then try improving yours instead of throwing mud at others. And real students can sign with their names as you saw in this thread....
@fly8ma: The reason is those are not real persons but other schools trying to compete to get more students themselves. A real not satisfied student (sadly people have to put effort into their own learning) just as you saw in this thread had no problem signing with own name..... every student at Goldwings can express his/hers opinion. The only ones who do not sign with their names are those who never even visited the school most probably other schools believing in this old fashioned mud throwing. And of course not every other school does this just some of them and they managed on the Polish forum the feat that every school got mud thrown at it except for Bartolini because they are full so no point in mud throwing.
Your school will not get better because you throw mud at other schools if you lack students then try improving yours instead of throwing mud at others. And real students can sign with their names as you saw in this thread....
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I wasted all the money I used in this school, because they didnīt give me certification of flown hours. And I have asked for it many times.
I canīt transfer my flight hours without certificate, which I flew at Goldwings, to other flight school. Do you want to experience the same?
I canīt transfer my flight hours without certificate, which I flew at Goldwings, to other flight school. Do you want to experience the same?
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Always visit any establishment before any training course.
Spend at least a day talking to the staff and just as importantly the customers (students).
Any reputable ATO will actively encourage you to speak with the customers as they are entirely confident about the product they are supplying.
If their attitude is similar to visiting North Korea then avoid it like the plague.......
Spend at least a day talking to the staff and just as importantly the customers (students).
Any reputable ATO will actively encourage you to speak with the customers as they are entirely confident about the product they are supplying.
If their attitude is similar to visiting North Korea then avoid it like the plague.......
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@parkfell: And that is why I encourage people to visit Goldwings Flight Academy or any other school in Poland personally instead of reading google reviews made by other schools with "pseudonyms". At Goldwings HQ recently anyone will meet a lot of students because some students rent rooms at the HQ for the time of their training. Plus they will meet a lot of students and instructors in the briefing room.
Another piece of advice, don't believe anything they promise you.
Regarding Google reviews, they are very unreliable, also the good ones.
It seems many posting on these forums, do have a certain amount of self-interest in various schools /FTO's, so take any advice given here with a pinch of salt.
Every school will try to sell you their courses, never forget this. They are a business trying to capture your money.
A couple of the biggest lies around for all flight schools is the myth of "pilot shortage" There is NO pilot shortage of inexperienced 200 - 400 hours pilots.
FTOs are very good at creating cycles of spin, that makes people part with more money than they need, so they can get that first job. The flight schools are similar Used Car sales men, they will say whatever it takes to make you spend your money with them.
For wannabe pilots it's a minefield of BS out there.
Remember when you have spent your money, it's not their problem anymore. Many promise more than they can keep, but when you discover this it's already to late.
The airlines do check training records, and they do care where you have trained. This might sound unfair, but this is based on experience where they see some schools don't meet the same training standards for the pilots they train as others.
So always be aware where you train, the cheapest is not always the best, equally as the most expensive does not guarantee you anything either.
Regarding Google reviews, they are very unreliable, also the good ones.
It seems many posting on these forums, do have a certain amount of self-interest in various schools /FTO's, so take any advice given here with a pinch of salt.
Every school will try to sell you their courses, never forget this. They are a business trying to capture your money.
A couple of the biggest lies around for all flight schools is the myth of "pilot shortage" There is NO pilot shortage of inexperienced 200 - 400 hours pilots.
FTOs are very good at creating cycles of spin, that makes people part with more money than they need, so they can get that first job. The flight schools are similar Used Car sales men, they will say whatever it takes to make you spend your money with them.
For wannabe pilots it's a minefield of BS out there.
Remember when you have spent your money, it's not their problem anymore. Many promise more than they can keep, but when you discover this it's already to late.
The airlines do check training records, and they do care where you have trained. This might sound unfair, but this is based on experience where they see some schools don't meet the same training standards for the pilots they train as others.
So always be aware where you train, the cheapest is not always the best, equally as the most expensive does not guarantee you anything either.
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@2unlimited: There is no pilot shortage still if you work for it you get to the airlines, all 3 of my instructors got an airline job within 1 year from when they were done with their training and they did not even need to do the APS MCC. Its a totally different market depending on where you wish to work. Its all up to the persons level of performance, probably everyone who do an APS MCC will be called by Ryanair for example if doing their official APS MCC program.... so when you get the chance its up to you. The difference between now and past time is that now you actually get the chance and some airlines call you (I know this for real by talking with my instructors) what you do with your chance is up to you. In the past if you did not even get a call then where could you prove what you can? So this is the big difference.
What did surprise me was that people willingly put like 2x the amount necessary to complete their training in other nations than Poland and afterwards make a an eternally long thread about how few aircraft are available and with real student names too.... and then I see that aircraft are waiting for students in Poland.... and sadly some schools in Poland are 'helping" themselves by creating a mud throwing competition that hurt the opinion about the whole nation for no reason..... That is why so many "pseudonyms" bomb google reviews of almost every Polish school except the one that is already full.
People should visit the schools, not only Goldwings that I am student at, visit also the other ones in Poland and see yourself the reality and what suits you best. Then you will notice at once that anonymous google reviews are mud throwing b*****it.
@LauraTahvanainen01: First of all you should write down the hours you did as part of PPL(A) training in your logbook. And the school will for sure write a confirmation for you that you did those hours at the school. Oh and when at another flight school I hope you will write an honest opinion about your new instructors there. Because from what I heard most of your training was done with the very best instructor (in my opinion) at the school and students are actually waiting to get this instructor because he got a passion for instructing, he does let the student make mistakes to learn from them, he does encourage the student to not give up and try harder plus he is never ever angry at the student no matter how hard the student is failing. I wish to get this instructor for the SEP part of my CPL(A) training and my FI(A) training. Some students wish to fly only with this instructor..... So I do really, really hope you will tell us your experience at another flight school.
What did surprise me was that people willingly put like 2x the amount necessary to complete their training in other nations than Poland and afterwards make a an eternally long thread about how few aircraft are available and with real student names too.... and then I see that aircraft are waiting for students in Poland.... and sadly some schools in Poland are 'helping" themselves by creating a mud throwing competition that hurt the opinion about the whole nation for no reason..... That is why so many "pseudonyms" bomb google reviews of almost every Polish school except the one that is already full.
People should visit the schools, not only Goldwings that I am student at, visit also the other ones in Poland and see yourself the reality and what suits you best. Then you will notice at once that anonymous google reviews are mud throwing b*****it.
@LauraTahvanainen01: First of all you should write down the hours you did as part of PPL(A) training in your logbook. And the school will for sure write a confirmation for you that you did those hours at the school. Oh and when at another flight school I hope you will write an honest opinion about your new instructors there. Because from what I heard most of your training was done with the very best instructor (in my opinion) at the school and students are actually waiting to get this instructor because he got a passion for instructing, he does let the student make mistakes to learn from them, he does encourage the student to not give up and try harder plus he is never ever angry at the student no matter how hard the student is failing. I wish to get this instructor for the SEP part of my CPL(A) training and my FI(A) training. Some students wish to fly only with this instructor..... So I do really, really hope you will tell us your experience at another flight school.
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Dear All. I am one of the above instructors, looking for the best possible training of Miss Laura. I am also experienced instructor and airline pilot performing First Officer duty. I am fully disappointed and disagree with Miss Laura's feedback. In my opinion she was one of the quickest growing student, having typical problems but nicely correcting everything and making significant progress. Due to that we decided to give Miss Laura more complex exercises giving her a chance to have more experience and knowledge, leading quick and efficient training. Unfortunately, Miss Laura did not recognize it and started blaming me as her instructor and our organisation. Without any reasons, knowlage and experience, she wants to prove that my or our way of her training was wrong, and it gave her a loss. I.e. According to the training program, she got an exercise during that, she could fly to different airport which is popular as PPL(A) exam airport. Many other students would like to have this kind of bonus on this stage of training. Again, it was significant disappointment for all of us, especially when we wanted to give even more to young and perspective student. I would like to wish Miss Laura all the best.
I don't believe in spending lots of money on a APS MCC, for reasons I have explained on another thread. Not going to repeat it here.
As for Ryanair, generally everybody who applies gets a chance, I never heard anyone applying for Ryanair not getting an interview at some stage. As a first job, they are ok, after not so much in my opinion.
I would hope a FTO have more than 1 good instructor to rely on.
I would say one general advice though, never agree to put all the money up front, pay in stages as you progress. This to ensure you do get trough the different parts in a timely manner, and if you later discover you are not happy with the FTO, you can leave at any time. Never pay large amounts up front for a full course.
I have seen guys get burnt with this before when they paid for a TR course up front, and during their training the company went bankrupt.
As for Ryanair, generally everybody who applies gets a chance, I never heard anyone applying for Ryanair not getting an interview at some stage. As a first job, they are ok, after not so much in my opinion.
I would hope a FTO have more than 1 good instructor to rely on.
I would say one general advice though, never agree to put all the money up front, pay in stages as you progress. This to ensure you do get trough the different parts in a timely manner, and if you later discover you are not happy with the FTO, you can leave at any time. Never pay large amounts up front for a full course.
I have seen guys get burnt with this before when they paid for a TR course up front, and during their training the company went bankrupt.
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@2unlimited: I saw what you wrote in APS MCC thread but I still do believe it cannot hurt to get it done. And if you look at the Ryanair topic some people are waiting for months and do not get the call (in Poland salary wise its the best you can get and the 164,5 per blockhour for captains is real I got it confirmed).... Still what I experienced at my school is that people get multiple chances at different airlines today so its the big difference, today you get a chance and if you do it well you get the job. 5 years ago you had almost to like pay2fly to get a chance at a job, or as one instructor who now fly for Ryanair for example fly AN-2 some years before getting an interview with an airline.
As for Goldwings Flight Academy there are many good instructors who got both time to explain everything outside of the flying blockhour and who are also very patient, some with extraordinary great flying skill. Its only that the instructor who wrote above in this topic is just totally extraordinary and in my opinion above what is considered a very good instructor. Borys is just the most perfect instructor you can imagine in everything you can expect from an instructor especially when it comes to mentally building student confidence, almost all instructors of course let the student learn from his/hers mistake and do not take control before it is really necessary but not everyone got that pedagogical talent to help the student learn from the mistake and quickly improve. That is why I could not believe my own eyes, when I saw someone who actually was at the school being not satisfied after getting Borys as instructor, and I do also wish all the best to Laura. But I hope she will tell us on the forum about how satisfied she will be with instructors wherever she choose to go to flight school. Because I am pretty sure there are not very many so exceptionally good instructors as Borys all around the world.
As for Goldwings Flight Academy there are many good instructors who got both time to explain everything outside of the flying blockhour and who are also very patient, some with extraordinary great flying skill. Its only that the instructor who wrote above in this topic is just totally extraordinary and in my opinion above what is considered a very good instructor. Borys is just the most perfect instructor you can imagine in everything you can expect from an instructor especially when it comes to mentally building student confidence, almost all instructors of course let the student learn from his/hers mistake and do not take control before it is really necessary but not everyone got that pedagogical talent to help the student learn from the mistake and quickly improve. That is why I could not believe my own eyes, when I saw someone who actually was at the school being not satisfied after getting Borys as instructor, and I do also wish all the best to Laura. But I hope she will tell us on the forum about how satisfied she will be with instructors wherever she choose to go to flight school. Because I am pretty sure there are not very many so exceptionally good instructors as Borys all around the world.
If you want to waste your money, and money is no object, than sure APS MCC is helpful to a certain degree. But I don't believe it increases your chances to get a job that much, just that you like to part with more money than you have to.
In 2010 - 2012 the average time from you applied with Ryanair to you used to get confirmation of an interview was around 1 - 3 months. But there would be around 2000 - 5000 people who applied, so most got rejected. And that time you also had to pay for the interview with RYR, I am not sure if they still do this now.
But paying Ģ6000 - 8000 for some APS course, vow.... I am lost for words of how newbies are being exploited.
It's good that Ryanair still have sheep ready to come to their muck, but each to their own.
You have many years to go before you become a Captain with RYR, and by the time you arrive at that stage, you will most likely have a different view of them.
I am curious who have made you believe you will get so many airline interviews when you are ready with your 200 hours SEP?
I know one guy with couple of thousands hours on jet, ATPL score average 97%, already 700 hours PIC, and still waiting for a full interview. As I said, FTO's are very good to tell you the airlines will be lined up to interview when you are finish, reality however can change very quickly in short time in this industry. All it takes is major economic downturn, NAS or another big airline to go bankrupt, and life for newbies becomes a nightmare for many years ahead.
Personally I am less optimistic for the next 2 - 3 years ahead, as there might be some big casualties soon in the business.
P2F I would avoid as the plague, 3 guys I know 3-4 years ago, paid 65.000 Euros to an East European FTO, to include TR + 500 hours on type, shortly after TR, the company went bankrupt, but still pocketed 195.000 Euros from these 3 guys, criminal. That's why never pay any FTO up front, for more than the course you currently doing.
In 2010 - 2012 the average time from you applied with Ryanair to you used to get confirmation of an interview was around 1 - 3 months. But there would be around 2000 - 5000 people who applied, so most got rejected. And that time you also had to pay for the interview with RYR, I am not sure if they still do this now.
But paying Ģ6000 - 8000 for some APS course, vow.... I am lost for words of how newbies are being exploited.
It's good that Ryanair still have sheep ready to come to their muck, but each to their own.
You have many years to go before you become a Captain with RYR, and by the time you arrive at that stage, you will most likely have a different view of them.
I am curious who have made you believe you will get so many airline interviews when you are ready with your 200 hours SEP?
I know one guy with couple of thousands hours on jet, ATPL score average 97%, already 700 hours PIC, and still waiting for a full interview. As I said, FTO's are very good to tell you the airlines will be lined up to interview when you are finish, reality however can change very quickly in short time in this industry. All it takes is major economic downturn, NAS or another big airline to go bankrupt, and life for newbies becomes a nightmare for many years ahead.
Personally I am less optimistic for the next 2 - 3 years ahead, as there might be some big casualties soon in the business.
P2F I would avoid as the plague, 3 guys I know 3-4 years ago, paid 65.000 Euros to an East European FTO, to include TR + 500 hours on type, shortly after TR, the company went bankrupt, but still pocketed 195.000 Euros from these 3 guys, criminal. That's why never pay any FTO up front, for more than the course you currently doing.
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@2unlitmited: Everything that increase the chance of getting an airline job is good. As for the interviews it was not the flight school who talked about it, when I was choosing a school I actually picked Goldwings because I felt the CFI (who is also the owner) was most honest and realistic. What I know about getting to the interview is from my instructors and other students who finished their training. And since you are telling me everyone get Ryanair interview (or call at least) I can tell you that not everyone do get the call but from what I know every instructor got chances at LOT Polish Airlines, Wizz Air, Sprint Air, Enter Air.... And every instructor who was teaching me got a job before 1 year passed from when they had all the necessary licenses.
But if someone has an attitude like "Ryanair is bad" and that is what I can almost read from your post.... then chances are slim the CV got sent to less known airlines who pay less, and a lot also depend on where someone wish to be based I believe. Maybe airlines like Ryanair got a good enough HR to find out who is thinking like you "good for a first job" and they somehow manage to sort out many of those persons who do not wish to stay and give their best effort for the company.
But if someone has an attitude like "Ryanair is bad" and that is what I can almost read from your post.... then chances are slim the CV got sent to less known airlines who pay less, and a lot also depend on where someone wish to be based I believe. Maybe airlines like Ryanair got a good enough HR to find out who is thinking like you "good for a first job" and they somehow manage to sort out many of those persons who do not wish to stay and give their best effort for the company.
What exactly does "most honest and realistic" mean?
If I am training, I want a company that can deliver a high quality training, and I would prefer someone who have a good track record of this. Everybody seems "honest" until their business does not have enough money, and they declare bankruptcy and go away to Bahamas with your money.
Most FTO's don't even own offices, aircraft or sims, they often lease them.
You might sign on to a program where they tell you they will give you an FI job, however if business is bad, what job can they offer you? Promises are worth very little in this industry.
As for RYR when I applied myself, I did get interview, but I got offered something else that I felt was better, and I never regretted this, however I have met plenty of ex RYR pilots telling me how relieved they are to have finally left RYR. However I have no issues admitting it's a good first job to gain experience, however eventually everybody grows tired of the RYR way of being treated.
As for spending nearly 10.000 Euros on APS MCC course, is fine if you have the spare cash to throw away, I am just telling all the others who don't have this money, don't sweat it, you will be fine. You will get interviews without spending this money, rather invest in a few Sim sessions targeting the actual assessment you will have when that time comes.
Than again what do I know, rather listen to people from FTO's on here trying to flog you their FTO's and courses, that might get you an airline interview. It's not like I havent already been trough this whole process the last 10 years.
I was lucky I got someone with years of experience to mentor me, and prepare me for the step up from having a CPL/IR to being ready for an airline. And it was nothing that I learned from an MCC or JOC.
If I am training, I want a company that can deliver a high quality training, and I would prefer someone who have a good track record of this. Everybody seems "honest" until their business does not have enough money, and they declare bankruptcy and go away to Bahamas with your money.
Most FTO's don't even own offices, aircraft or sims, they often lease them.
You might sign on to a program where they tell you they will give you an FI job, however if business is bad, what job can they offer you? Promises are worth very little in this industry.
As for RYR when I applied myself, I did get interview, but I got offered something else that I felt was better, and I never regretted this, however I have met plenty of ex RYR pilots telling me how relieved they are to have finally left RYR. However I have no issues admitting it's a good first job to gain experience, however eventually everybody grows tired of the RYR way of being treated.
As for spending nearly 10.000 Euros on APS MCC course, is fine if you have the spare cash to throw away, I am just telling all the others who don't have this money, don't sweat it, you will be fine. You will get interviews without spending this money, rather invest in a few Sim sessions targeting the actual assessment you will have when that time comes.
Than again what do I know, rather listen to people from FTO's on here trying to flog you their FTO's and courses, that might get you an airline interview. It's not like I havent already been trough this whole process the last 10 years.
I was lucky I got someone with years of experience to mentor me, and prepare me for the step up from having a CPL/IR to being ready for an airline. And it was nothing that I learned from an MCC or JOC.
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@2unlimited: For me it meant no marketing and whatever is being asked the answer was not like : "yes everyone get to the airline", "everything is perfect, you can fly whole PPL(A) in 2 weeks" and stuff like that. I did not have a feeling of marketing but a more honest normal conversation. As for the rest of the school it have existed in over 10 years and through the big crisis (without problems) and I do happen to know the planes and sims are owned by the school except for one investment (my plane). And I decided to do it because I saw how good the school worked, if I did not think so I would never ever invest in it because why? As for "track record" feel free to check on the facebook page how many pilots trained in Goldwings got to the airlines, you can actually write to them too and ask. As for the quality of training, well as you can see in the sporadic real complaints (not those anonymous from other schools and a fired instructor) they are about the school demanding a high level of flying and theoretical knowledge to be obtained by the students. And that in most cases require more time than standard 45 hours for PPL(A) for example (some did it in the mandatory hours).
As for the APS MCC it is both to learn on a Boeing 737 sim (and they are actually targeting the assessment there) and get a shortcut to get the Ryanair call (as I told you not everyone got the call, but everyone got some assessment some even more than one at the other airlines) plus I will do of course train extra with Sim sessions to be even better. Flying is always about improving, so it will definitely not harm to do well in the SIM. And it will also probably not harm if the HR see I believe in their company and wish to do my best effort for it, instead of someone who come there thinking (its a good first job). And the HR know probably what other airlines with bases in Poland pay so they believe Polish pilots will stay.
Oh and there is no APS MCC at my school so the part about "flogging someone into their courses" its better to write it in the APS MCC topic.
As for the APS MCC it is both to learn on a Boeing 737 sim (and they are actually targeting the assessment there) and get a shortcut to get the Ryanair call (as I told you not everyone got the call, but everyone got some assessment some even more than one at the other airlines) plus I will do of course train extra with Sim sessions to be even better. Flying is always about improving, so it will definitely not harm to do well in the SIM. And it will also probably not harm if the HR see I believe in their company and wish to do my best effort for it, instead of someone who come there thinking (its a good first job). And the HR know probably what other airlines with bases in Poland pay so they believe Polish pilots will stay.
Oh and there is no APS MCC at my school so the part about "flogging someone into their courses" its better to write it in the APS MCC topic.
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Why is it that I get the distinct impression you are a "management lackey"?
i think you do protest too much.......
The customer is the final arbiter. Let us see if we start to hear from them.
Your english style of writing is very distinctive. Using another 'c/s' will be fairly obvious.
Why is it that I get the distinct impression you are a "management lackey"?
i think you do protest too much.......
The customer is the final arbiter. Let us see if we start to hear from them.
Your english style of writing is very distinctive. Using another 'c/s' will be fairly obvious.
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@parkfell: Because I do not like the mud throwing contest between schools in Poland making the whole nation suffer and not helping anyone. And as I said openly and honestly I invested in my own Cessna 172 so of course it is also in my interest that the school will grow it will open the possibility for further investments and I believe in the school because it is very good. I would not have invested if I did not believe the school is very good.
As for my English well I am not good at grammar so I do not know what you mean by "c/s" and Google does not help.
I decided to write in topics where people ask about Goldwings so customers can also get some real info and visit the schools themselves instead of thinking everything must be bad in Poland if they watch the anonymous school vs school mud throwing contest in Google.
As for my English well I am not good at grammar so I do not know what you mean by "c/s" and Google does not help.
I decided to write in topics where people ask about Goldwings so customers can also get some real info and visit the schools themselves instead of thinking everything must be bad in Poland if they watch the anonymous school vs school mud throwing contest in Google.
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I am a current MEP/IR/CPL of this school and I can recommend visiting them. I finished my NVFR and MEP and waiting for IR/CPL training approvals from CAA. The school helped me a lot during my first stage and I assume the rest will be better.
So I can see Goldwings are connected to a P2F company Fly Nordica. I am not about bashing anyone regardless from where they come from, except if they run these Pay2Fly programs or work with Pay2Fly companies, then they deserve everything they get.
Very cagey in the description of the "job". I would be very curious to see what the "free" training contract with Nordica would look like.
Apparently EagleJet are using Nordica also, enough said. Garbage.
Let it be a warning, when 3 guys I met few years ago, lost 195.000 Euros to another Eastern European company, who was running a P2F program, and declared themselves bankrupt before the 3 guys got to fly one single hour P2F. Obviously the owners had left the country going on holiday, as their Limited Company went bankrupt. Not surprisingly, there was no funds left in the company as they was dissolved.
Very cagey in the description of the "job". I would be very curious to see what the "free" training contract with Nordica would look like.
Apparently EagleJet are using Nordica also, enough said. Garbage.
Let it be a warning, when 3 guys I met few years ago, lost 195.000 Euros to another Eastern European company, who was running a P2F program, and declared themselves bankrupt before the 3 guys got to fly one single hour P2F. Obviously the owners had left the country going on holiday, as their Limited Company went bankrupt. Not surprisingly, there was no funds left in the company as they was dissolved.
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@2unlimited: Goldwings cooperation with Nordica have not even started yet and it will of course be a normal program just with an extra possibility to get an airline job. Same price same licenses as on the normal 0-ATPL program. Its an opportunity for students who pass Nordica assessment to continue the program with Nordica guidelines and in the end get a job there (no extra payment, not even for typerating I believe). A PAID job by Nordica. No paying just the normal cost of 0-ATPL program without an airline, so this is a "for free extra chance" A BONUS. And the program have not even started yet.
With your way of thinking it would be bad if Ryanair choose a school from which they wish to assess the students. Its Nordica who will pay the qualified pilots to fly for them not the other way around. And Goldwings are just training pilots up to the full IR/ME CPL(A) + for those who wish FI(A).
I do not know any EagleJet neither do Goldwings have any connection to it or probably have also not heard about it, so stop spreading misinformation like those "haters" who did not even visit the school, you have beaten those haters you did not even read what it was about and shouted that it is pay2fly while its an ordinary for free chance for students who already got their 0-ATPL program so its a bonus to have a chance to secure an airline job for those who wish to try. No extra cost.
You are just putting misleading information like people who never ever visited the school, you did not even read what the planned cooperation is about and that the student does not have to pay anything extra and got a chance at a PAID job. Seriously if you do not know something or understand something read it or call the school and ask then you will know what it is before you create fiction.
PS. As you see above we do also have fresh and satisfied students like youngretired who visited the school like I advised him when he asked, and he chose that Goldwings suited his needs and he is satisfied. The school value every student feedback both those fully satisfied and those who did not like something as long as they tell what it was (for example performing more exercises to improve the students flying skills as in the previous case). Feedback gives room for improvement for everyone can always improve (except instructors will never be able to magically teach the student with no effort from the student, the student must do his/her own effort to learn and also believe the program with different exercises was made for a reason (mandatory from the CAA).).
But being bombed by mud throwing from "pseudonyms" who have never ever visited the school (but most probably represent an another school) or reading people who create fiction out of a FREE bonus chance for the students.... ? Seriously its funny how people do not know but still comment like if they knew.
With your way of thinking it would be bad if Ryanair choose a school from which they wish to assess the students. Its Nordica who will pay the qualified pilots to fly for them not the other way around. And Goldwings are just training pilots up to the full IR/ME CPL(A) + for those who wish FI(A).
I do not know any EagleJet neither do Goldwings have any connection to it or probably have also not heard about it, so stop spreading misinformation like those "haters" who did not even visit the school, you have beaten those haters you did not even read what it was about and shouted that it is pay2fly while its an ordinary for free chance for students who already got their 0-ATPL program so its a bonus to have a chance to secure an airline job for those who wish to try. No extra cost.
You are just putting misleading information like people who never ever visited the school, you did not even read what the planned cooperation is about and that the student does not have to pay anything extra and got a chance at a PAID job. Seriously if you do not know something or understand something read it or call the school and ask then you will know what it is before you create fiction.
PS. As you see above we do also have fresh and satisfied students like youngretired who visited the school like I advised him when he asked, and he chose that Goldwings suited his needs and he is satisfied. The school value every student feedback both those fully satisfied and those who did not like something as long as they tell what it was (for example performing more exercises to improve the students flying skills as in the previous case). Feedback gives room for improvement for everyone can always improve (except instructors will never be able to magically teach the student with no effort from the student, the student must do his/her own effort to learn and also believe the program with different exercises was made for a reason (mandatory from the CAA).).
But being bombed by mud throwing from "pseudonyms" who have never ever visited the school (but most probably represent an another school) or reading people who create fiction out of a FREE bonus chance for the students.... ? Seriously its funny how people do not know but still comment like if they knew.