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Flyby School Leon

Old 27th Jan 2020, 11:24
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I am going! I still need to prepare a couple questions by my trip is already planned
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Old 27th Jan 2020, 20:03
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Originally Posted by Evoluxione View Post
Anyone else from here going to the open day next month?
I’m also going to the open day in the 9th of February
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 01:49
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Awesome to hear! Where are you guys from?
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 09:54
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Originally Posted by tafau99 View Post
Have you started studying or not yet?
for me I passed their test and I had them
may be I start in november
Can you tell me more about their tests?
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Old 28th Jan 2020, 12:56
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Tiago

I have tried to message you back.
My email is [email protected]
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 22:39
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Originally Posted by tafau99 View Post
Have you started studying or not yet?
for me I passed their test and I had them
may be I start in november
what kind of questions you had ?
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 13:52
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See you guys tomorrow (hopefully) 😎
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Old 11th Feb 2020, 19:34
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Hi Guys,

any fresh review/feedback from the recent open day ? Thanks a lot !
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 11:49
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Very positive experience at least for me. Everyone from staff that we met seemed very professional, easy to approach and answered any question you had in mind. The same attitude (that I liked) they have shown earlier was present on the open day as well. They didn't bullshit and told us straight about the course and how hard it will be if we chose this particular school.

Everything else seemed super as well including the simulators, aircrafts and classrooms etc. They even mentioned that they might transfer all operations to Burgos where there is much better accomodation than in Leon for example. Also they clarified (I didn't know this) that the course will be completed in both Leon and Burgos separately meaning that there won't be any shuttling between Leon and Burogs airport when ever there is flight days(this is what I thought at first). Students will first live a few months in Leon finishing the 2 month ground school and then will move to Burgos for the ATPL + flight training period that lasts about 7 months if I understood correctly. Honestly I'm not sure what happened after that because it was unclear to me if the students move back to Leon for the remainder time or not. If Flybyschool is lurking about this forum they could perhaps clarify this for everyone?

Overall I couldn't personally think of anything negative about the school based on the visit other than the fact that overall Spanish people (at least outside of the schools staff that I met) do not speak English at all
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 10:22
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Thanks mate, all this sounds really good.
I'll keep them in mind even though my first option still Bartolini Air at the moment
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 16:31
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Forget about this flight school, they only want your MONEY. I did the ATPL at Flybyscholl (Flybai ATO E166 ex Bilbao) and I could say itīs one of the worst flightīs school in Spain. All the reviews are fake!! The course itīs carried out at Burgos, not in Leon, as they show in their webpage, because the donīt have the authorization from spanish authorities for flying at Leon airport, they dontīt want to pay the airport FEES (1 million euros anual), thatīs why first the were at Bilbao, then Los oteros - Leon, and now Burgos, and in a couple of month who knows where they will be at. The course canīt be finished in 14 months, so you will have to pay more and more euros, thatīs why the low PRICE itīs a real HOOK/BAIT. The "madrileņo" Alex Alvarez itīs an scammer and sociopath person, the best thing he does itīs to lie, and he does it well. The teachers are a disaster, they have no real experience on airlines and many never flew; they are from Venezuela, China, Oman, Arabia and others countryīs out of Spain. The first thing that they give you are all the anwers for the exams!! They got many Light Sport Aircraft because their price itīs half the cost of Piper or Cessna, fake schoolīs got this LSA to reduce operational costs, but not your fee: with two students fee they buy one aircraft. The food itīs horrible (you will have to buy your own), and the residence Emilio Hurtado (and hotel Las Vegas Burgos) has to much noise 24hr, bad bed and many problems with the infrastructure, thatīs why itīs cheap. 99% of the studentīs are from Oman, Iran and Arabia, they donīt know spanish, so they can be cheated easily. And many more things that they hide and you discover them late.....DONīT SAY I DIDNīT TELL YOU...good luck.

Last edited by John Gimenez; 6th Mar 2020 at 22:59.
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 22:00
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Burgos and Leon

Good evening,
I am Alex from FLYBYSCHOOL

We do try to explain everything in our open days but it seems we must be clearer in certain points.

Let me clarify. After the ATPL and SE-VFR Phase, students will conduct the IFR phase followed by ME, final skill tests (for CPL and ME-IR) and completing the training with the 40 Hour MCC

the IFR Phase includes 20 hours in real airplane that will be completed in Burgos and then 40 hours in our simulator in Leon. But this will only happen when our FNPT II MCC simulator located in Leon is finally certified. After months of delay from the Spanish CAA we will finally have the audit on site between 17 and 19 February... hopefully, soon after, the sim will be released for duty!

The ME will be completed from Burgos and then, the MCC will be again done at The University of Leon.

Being said all the above, we are actively working to reopen flight operations from Leon as soon as possible. When? I don’t have a straight answer for that...
But I can advance some news here... we are planing to open another base for ATPL and Se-VFR while Leon is not open. Initial plans are to have it opened as soon as 1 May but this may change...

I hope this clarifies your questions

regards


PS: I understand most of you might have received a private message from a guy supposedly called John Gimenez or Juan Gimenez. I am really sorry about it but I did respond to this gentleman on Facebook. To start with, we have never ever had a student called John (or Juan) Gimenez... but yes, my formal name is Alejandro which I shorten to Alex...
Internet facilitates communications across the globe but you sometimes don’t know if the other person is who really says he is... that’s why we do not get offended when asked questions to confirm if we a real ATO (some may think... too good to be true). We also encourage potential students to visit the schools of your choice to see it with your own eyes (preferably, visit more than one school)
And we cannot be everybody’s choice... and we accept that.

Following this thread of posts I recognize a couple of our students but they posted here on their own account without any indication or suggestion from me or from anyone at FlyBy

More than happy to answer any question or concern you may have


Alex Alvarez (or should I clarify, Alejandro Alvarez ;-)))

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Old 16th Feb 2020, 19:08
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Dear Alex,

Thank you for the response and clearing up the air on that review left by John or whoever.

This flight school looks appealing however I am still assessing my options.
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Old 18th Feb 2020, 05:37
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Burgos, Spain
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Yes,please, compare other options!!

btw, someone sent me a pm but had his inbox full and could not respond

you can always email us
admissions officer is Jaime Ordovas (Jaime.ordovas(at)FLYBYSCHOOL.com)
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Old 14th Apr 2020, 08:39
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Join Date: Apr 2020
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Hey Guys,
I'm a student from the November 2019 Promotion. I have no complaints about the school, as they said, they're not perfect, however for the price and time frame its worth it. The fleet of aircraft is growing and unless the weather is bad you will usually have a decent amount of flights per week. Ground school instructors are knowledgeable (shout out to Inigo and Pawel <3 ) and flight instructors are super nice. The situation as to why we moved to Burgos does not seem to have been of an fault of the school.

Personally, I prefer Burgos. It's a nice city, the residence I was placed in is modern, clean and food is actually quiet good. Plus the airport there is basically just for us with only a couple of commercial flights a week (ignoring the current COVID 19 situation ofc)
Customer Support are godsends. Camilla helps everyone equally and as much as she can. I know you might say that technically it's her job but imagine handling a huge amount of students and trying to sort out the move to Burgos.

If you live close by to Spain, I do suggest driving down with your car. It's very useful having your own transportation.
Shuttle timings are a bit tough and you might have to catch the 8 am shuttle for your flight at 12pm. so rather than being able to study in peace you would have to go try study with people running around you.

Alex is very nice and helpful however if you have questions I suggest contacting customer support or their marketing department for more details (or find a student on instagram. Most of us post a tonne xD)

Overall I rate the school very highly. Good price, very helpful and understanding. The aim is to finish in 14 months. That is assuming you do not miss your scheduled flights and don't slack. Delays are very possible if you do any of these.
Also don't forget you are students, so if something is not 5 star you need to be a bit understanding and compromise. Yes you are paying a good sum of money but compared to some other schools where you pay much more and spend twice the time to get your license I think some patience is warranted.

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Old 30th Apr 2020, 06:23
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Hi Matt, could you expand more about the accommodation that they offer ? Also, I was just wondering about the food, is it just Spanish food or do they give you variety?... odd questions I know, but it has to be asked, since most of my questions I have been answered in previous threads.
Thank you in advance.
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Old 1st May 2020, 09:08
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Hey John,
no worries it's good that you're asking. Accommodation in Leon is decent. A bit basic but good. You will share an apartment with 2 others (unless you are lucky and the other 2 rooms are empty). Food is not too great here, sometimes its good, sometimes it isn't. So if you don't mind cooking you have a small kitchen and can cook.
You do have an option to either rent your own place for the first two months in Leon or upgrade your contract and move to a 1 bed apartment. However doing so will pretty much cut you off from spending time with colleagues and being with the others is actually a tonne of fun. There is a dedicated study room in the residence so you can cut off from and study there if needed.

Burgos has around three different residences I think. I love the place I'm in.Modern, food is pretty good. Cleaning of rooms is twice or three times a week, has a gym, supermarket 5 mins away and city center a 5 minute walk.
Downside is its shared with the university and can be pretty noisy at times.
Upside you get to meet and make friends.
There is also a massive chill out area with TV, Table Tennis, Billiards, sofa's...etc

There is another residence bang in the center of the city. A bit nicer as its brand new, but its it a bit smaller.
Haven't seen or heard anyone talking about the third place.

As for the type of food. Sometimes it's spanish based, like paella a and tortilla, but most of the time it's "normal". Sometimes chicken or meat, sometimes pasta...lots of fruit and salads. (this is in the place I'm currently in)

I suggest attending an open day (when all this hassle calms down)

Hope it helps.
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