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Old 25th Jul 2018, 14:36
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Just talking to my very experienced instructor yesterday about the CPL, he was saying a well trained PPL student should walk through a CPL test after a little bit of polishing up; what does that tell you?

Providing that the handling skills are there, the rest of it is about convincing the examiner that you have the confidence and initiative to fly an aircraft safely. Any decent examiner does not treat a PPL or CPL test as a box ticking exercise, unless they are a moron. They will be looking to see a SAFE and confident pilot, they will not fail you on a formality if you are a 'switched on' pilot.

Saying all that, when you have lots of money, you can buy almost anything in life.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 15:53
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When I was teaching customers at BAe flying college, Prestwick in the 1990s, the modular CPL syllabus (JAR) on a PA28 was 15 hours plus the test. Those who had been well taught during the PPL & IMC(IRR) rating had no difficulty achieving within syllabus hours. You had a fairly good idea as to how someone would shape up after the first exercise GH. Can they TRIM for S/L, climbing & descending? Answer YES ~ then comparative plain sailing. Most had been well taught by their flying clubs.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 16:23
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Saying all that, when you have lots of money, you can buy almost anything in life.
Even heavy line experience. Eaglejet are currently offering 747-200 (with EFIS) RHS with ICAO minimum (CPL/IR 200TT)+T/R, of course you'll have to put up quite a lot of cash ($49,500 for 500 hours). They won't be looking at aptitude that closely I strongly suspect.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 16:43
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Paying to line flying for 500 hrs etc, even before being checked out as a FO is immoral. There are fare paying passengers in the back. The operator is simply exploiting the new comers. And there is no certainty of a job offer once completed.
Hopefully supply and demand will cause it to die on the vine.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 22:47
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Agree with your speculation, parkfell, but the delivery of the message to the OP could've been loads better, assuming the OP was accurate in his description of the incident.
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Old 26th Jul 2018, 00:02
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If I've read things correctly, the OP has moved from the C152 to the Warrior, then to an Arrow within the space of a few flying hours whilst not having had a great deal of recent flying beforehand. Could the difficulty be more to do with a currency/new type combination than aptitude? Possibly it would explain the lack of difficulty with the initial PPL training and Night Rating?
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Old 2nd Aug 2018, 18:49
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Hmm,

I could be wrong but that instructor sounds like a very experienced pilot but not a very experienced instructor, or one who is very stuck in his ways. Some pilots just aren't cut out for teaching. A good teacher in any discipline will be able to try different approaches to impart the required knowledge and skills thus adapting to different learning styles. Flying itself is very easy; integrating it with procedures, radio work and checklists is what makes it challenging and that's especially true in IFR work. It sounds like you just need more regular exposure to the environment so you can get comfortable and less intimidated.
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Old 28th Sep 2019, 19:36
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Hi There
Interested to hear what happened as in similar position.
Completed PPL about 8 years ago. Flew local flights about every month but nothing challenging. Started ATPL's about 3 years ago and completed in January 2019. Looking to do CPL, ME/IR but things haven't gone to plan. Looking to do CPL in Spain as due to work commitments I cannot do the complete course. Confidence is at an all time low!
Would be great to hear how things have turned out for you.
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