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EASA ATPL theory course, FAA THEORY

Old 10th Oct 2017, 13:24
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EASA ATPL theory course, FAA THEORY

Hi all,

I was going to start studying EASA ATPL theory course with Baltic Aviation Academy, but their cost was very expensive for me (more than 8 000 euros). and I decided to study distance learning.

can you give me some advice about distance learning course cost in Europe, which won't be expensive like BAA please? which academy can you suggest me?

and additionally, can you tell me anything about FAA Theoretical distance learning course? does it exist and what this course is called?
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Old 10th Oct 2017, 22:15
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Distance learning with Cats Aviation in the UK is 1499, others maybe a grand more expensive. I don't know what €8000 is for - you could get a PPL AND ATPL distance learning for that amount.

FAA is pretty much self study, although you do need an instructor to sign you of for the exam. Cost should be under $100. You also have to do CPL and IR exams, then an ATP CTP course before you can take the ATP written test. Each of the tests should take a few days only of solid study. Nothing like the EASA exams.
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Old 11th Oct 2017, 12:28
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For the FAA ATP written tests you don't need an instructor's sign off. At that point in your career the FAA thinks you know when you're ready for the test.

To take the ATP checkride you have to have a commercial with an instrument rating. It does not have to be FAA. You can have your CAA verify your ICAO license to the FAA and that will count.
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Old 11th Oct 2017, 23:47
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For the FAA ATP written, you need to complete the approved training program first. That is your "signoff".
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 02:45
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That training program is only required for ATP-MEL exam. If you do single engine ATP then it doesn't apply.

Of course pretty much everyone will require a ME-ATP, not SE, for their career - but for those who might need, or want, any form of ATP it's a consideration.
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 01:18
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True, I forgot about SE-ATP. You don't really see those around much.
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 06:15
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I'm one of the few. Amongst my licences I have FAA ATP-MEL, SEL, SES. The only FAA licences I hold are at ATP level.

Why? Because an FAA ATP checkride ('flight test' to the rest of us) is little more than an instrument rating test - but with reduceded tolerances compared to typical ICAO instrument ratings. 1/4 scale both needles for the ILS, for example. Compare that to having to demonstrate 8s on pylons, turns around a point, chandelles etc. All those FAA CPL manouvers, none of which would have helped in my near 35yr career. What a WOFTAM. Bugger that for a joke.

So, when I moved to the US in '04, I did a combined ATP-SEL & SES add-on to my already-held FAA ATP-MEL from the mid '90s. Simples! And fun doing the water bits.
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Also it used to serve as a place holder if your written was going to expire. I did the SEL ATP in the last century and for a while flew with an ATP SEL commercial MEL and DC-3. Had been unable to line up one of the DC-3 PCs with a Fed so thrashed around in a 172 with a DE. That doesn't work anymore as there are separate SE and ME writtens.
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