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Old 30th Jan 2017, 09:20
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FTEjerez FlightDeck+ / CTC takeoff (one-step modular feedback)

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I would like to have the feedback from current students (2016-17) or old students (2014-15) who have followed the modular training from FTE (flightdeck+) or CTC(takeoff) in one-step process on the following points:

1) Have you find a pilot job ? If yes in wich period ?
2) Do you have statiscs on the employement after this modular training in one-step ?

PS: In my mind one-step proces mean after obtain the PPL+ATPLtheoric you follow in the same time in the same school in this case (FTE or CTC) your CPL/ME-IR/MCC/JOC.
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Hi Ben05,

Some of Modular student in FTE got interview with AER Lingus, Thomas COOK, RyanAir. the MCC of FTE is a very important recommendation for airlines.

After i've no idea regarding CTC, i heard that a lot of CTC Modular students got Ryan Air positions.

Both schools are very good for sure. I think FTE has taken the place of CAE for the moment. All integrated students are leaving FTE with a job. You can be hire by an airline 4-5 months before the end of your formation.
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I'm very much trying to find out the same thing Ben05, so I can't say anything from experience but I do know of a CTC takeoff student who went to BA Cityflyer. CTC seem to think that they're placing modular students almost as fast as integrated
I'm leaning towards CTC but one thing that puts me off is that they won't accept second series passes for the AQC even if you complete the flight training with them. And if you can't do their AQC then what was the point of paying the premium for CTC?
EZY don't take modular students from FTE but they take modular from CTC, probably via flexicrew.
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Originally Posted by fenny
EZY don't take modular students from FTE
Apparently!

FTE flight deck plus course seems to be just like the integrated course except you join in the middle at CPL stage. FTE just retired the Piper Seneca so modular students, therefore, will most likely just slot in with integrated cadets at the same stage on the DA42.
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That's based on emails I've been getting from the two ATOs.
FTE told be that they run flight deck+ every 3 months and there's an max of 6 (I think) per course. CTC were starting courses every month.
FTE told me the only airlines they have links with that don't take modular were EZY and NAX.
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Someone know how many student per year at CTC take off ?

For FTE assuming 24 student/year it is not a lot, so we can be confident to the probability to find a job ...
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Is there a selection to start CPL MEIR at these schools ?
Or is it sufficient to pay ?
I know that there some form of selection for the AQC at CTC. Is it harsh ?
Does it favor CPL MEIR graduates from CTC ?
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For me there is no selection to start modular training at FTE/CAE/CTC. Just pay.

I will be also interested about the level of the AQC at CTC ?
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Originally Posted by Ben05
Someone know how many student per year at CTC take off ?

For FTE assuming 24 student/year it is not a lot, so we can be confident to the probability to find a job ...
CTC didn't say how many per year, but it sounds like there isn't a long waiting list as courses start every month. CTC said modular is usually just as quick to be placed as integrated.
FTE said they advise booking 6 months before the start date, I can't advise how quickly people get jobs though.
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Originally Posted by KayPam
Is there a selection to start CPL MEIR at these schools ?
Or is it sufficient to pay ?
I know that there some form of selection for the AQC at CTC. Is it harsh ?
Does it favor CPL MEIR graduates from CTC ?
No selection required for the course you just need to pay for it and have your minimum hrs and night rating.
They said the criteria for getting on the AQC is just first series passes in your CPL/IR and no more that 3 retakes in ATPL theory. Also you need to be 159 -191cm.
Didn't say whether the favour CTC grads but I assume they would.
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No selection up to and including the MCC/JOC ?

That would be a surprise.

The AQC should be of good level since their graduates are able to apply at easyjet (contrarily to graduates from unauthorized schools)
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Yeah I thought there was the usual PILAPT to get on to the AQC but they didn't mention it.
Also I get the impression that modular students can't be directly employed by EZY, they're only employed via Flexicrew (I may be wrong).
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I'm CTC modular and got a job last year with EZY. So did a lot of other guys. Couple others went to Thomas Cook and Monarch. Once you get through AQC phase there is no real differentiation between integrated and modular students. But you do go into a separate hold pool (ATP).

The Takeoff classes were small when I was training. We was getting placed just as fast as the integrated guys after finishing AQC. Think I only waited 2 months!
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Lew747 that's great to hear! How did you find takeoff?
I'm trying to find out what like structure is, ie how many days a week you're in and how long the days are? I've asked whether it would be possible to work part time (main reason for going modular) but I can't seem to get any definitive answers out of them.
Also are you direct with EZY, the idea of flexicrew freaks me out but apparently they're going to stop it sometime
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No selection required for any part of the FTE Flightdeck+ course.

Modular guys from FTE went to Aer Lingus, Flybe and others.

Fenny, as best I understand it; anyone who joins EJ as a cadet, regardless of whether they are integrated or modular, have a choice of being flexicrew/contractor in the U.K. or a permanent position in an European base. If you choose the former you will eventually get a permamnent position in the U.K. after a few years.
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Lew747 that's great to hear! How did you find takeoff?
I'm trying to find out what like structure is, ie how many days a week you're in and how long the days are? I've asked whether it would be possible to work part time (main reason for going modular) but I can't seem to get any definitive answers out of them.
Also are you direct with EZY, the idea of flexicrew freaks me out but apparently they're going to stop it sometime
It was quite random the days you would be flying. I suppose it would be possible to hold down a small job on the side but to be honest I wouldn't recommend it. I took a sabbatical from my day job so I could focus purely on the flying. You want to put all your efforts into this training and get the best grades/reports you can.

And yes doesn't matter whether you are integrated or modular. If you join CTC as a new entrant you will be put on a flexi contract unless you get a European base. At the moment most stay on flexi for about a year or so before going perm. To be honest I haven't found the flexi contract to be THAT bad.
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Lew747,

Many thanks for the helpful advice.

I am also interested in CTC Takeoff and it's consoling to know that modular students are still getting jobs with the likes of EZY. I initially planned to go integrated on the Generation easyJet ATPL, however, I can't justify this at a cost of £123k when modular can potentially give me the same result.

Out of interest, where did you complete your ATPL's? I plan to go residential at BCFT before applying to CTC.
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Hi all I am too still undecided to take the modular or integrated route was wondering if anyone has any feed back regarding age restriction. H

as anyone been either integrated or modular on the Ctc course over the age of 30 and been offered employment with the likes of EZY. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I will be investing a lot of time and money into the route I decide many thanks sf85
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