Can you advice me a good EASA PPL course in the USA?
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Hi edhelms!
You can start with the list of ATOs here:
https://www.easa.europa.eu/download/...rtificates.pdf
Be careful with those schools:
https://www.easa.europa.eu/download/...rtificates.pdf
I definitely do NOT recommend EFT ("European Flight Training" re-branded "EASA Flight Training") in Fort Pierce for having wasted quite some money there (me and the rest of my class).
"button push ignored" 's suggestion is worth considering if you have the EASA ATPL as a target in the long term. Indeed, his plan allows you to skip the EASA PPL since you are only required a ICAO PPL to attend the EASA ATPL exams. After completing your FAA PPL + EASA exams, you can come back to Europe for the mandatory IR and CPL (you can't pass them outside Europe).
I am a bit more skeptical about the $40 / h aircraft rental.
Finally, you may consider the following business sign:
You can start with the list of ATOs here:
https://www.easa.europa.eu/download/...rtificates.pdf
Be careful with those schools:
https://www.easa.europa.eu/download/...rtificates.pdf
I definitely do NOT recommend EFT ("European Flight Training" re-branded "EASA Flight Training") in Fort Pierce for having wasted quite some money there (me and the rest of my class).
"button push ignored" 's suggestion is worth considering if you have the EASA ATPL as a target in the long term. Indeed, his plan allows you to skip the EASA PPL since you are only required a ICAO PPL to attend the EASA ATPL exams. After completing your FAA PPL + EASA exams, you can come back to Europe for the mandatory IR and CPL (you can't pass them outside Europe).
I am a bit more skeptical about the $40 / h aircraft rental.
Finally, you may consider the following business sign:
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I have been looking into FAA PPL rather than EASA simply due to time frames of training. The costs aren't the saving it used to be due to exchange rates.
However. One thing I did find out is how I could use the FAA PPL back in the UK
FAA PPL can be used to fy N-Reg in UK.
FAA PPL can be used to gain (read paper application): UK NPPL which if I understand correctly. Gives you the same EASA PPL rights but limited to UK airspace plus Non-EASA A/C in UK airspace.... I'm sure someone can confirm or correct this.
The UK NPPL can then be used to gain (read paper application): EASA LAPL which limits you to MTOW of 2000kg and max 4 POB inc Pilot but EASA wide. If you have 6 hrs Solo from license on the NPPL you don't need the 10hr before PX.
Then you can top up training for the EASA PPL if needed. You can also hold the FAA PPL, the UK NPPL and the EASA LAPL at the same time. You can now also fly using the FAA PPL in EASA land with a US class 3 medical.
In short. The USA route doesn't look to save almost any money - in fact, every time I've looked.. the EASA in the US cam out more expensive. BUT but but. .... its 5 or 8 weeks rather than a year in the UK.
I costed the FAA up with conversion time on rtn... even with the long-winded NPPL>LAPL>Training>EASA PPL... your looking at the same costs (but with lots of hassle).
I'm currently researching Canada. No visa for PPL training as long as its less than 6month. Cost wise looking quite good but need to dig deeper on how I convert it to EASA or if the same NPPL route is viable.
However. One thing I did find out is how I could use the FAA PPL back in the UK
FAA PPL can be used to fy N-Reg in UK.
FAA PPL can be used to gain (read paper application): UK NPPL which if I understand correctly. Gives you the same EASA PPL rights but limited to UK airspace plus Non-EASA A/C in UK airspace.... I'm sure someone can confirm or correct this.
The UK NPPL can then be used to gain (read paper application): EASA LAPL which limits you to MTOW of 2000kg and max 4 POB inc Pilot but EASA wide. If you have 6 hrs Solo from license on the NPPL you don't need the 10hr before PX.
Then you can top up training for the EASA PPL if needed. You can also hold the FAA PPL, the UK NPPL and the EASA LAPL at the same time. You can now also fly using the FAA PPL in EASA land with a US class 3 medical.
In short. The USA route doesn't look to save almost any money - in fact, every time I've looked.. the EASA in the US cam out more expensive. BUT but but. .... its 5 or 8 weeks rather than a year in the UK.
I costed the FAA up with conversion time on rtn... even with the long-winded NPPL>LAPL>Training>EASA PPL... your looking at the same costs (but with lots of hassle).
I'm currently researching Canada. No visa for PPL training as long as its less than 6month. Cost wise looking quite good but need to dig deeper on how I convert it to EASA or if the same NPPL route is viable.
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edhelms, i will strongly state stay away from AAA in san diego, please read the reviews left on google or pm me and i will tell you a horror story of AAA, also have you not looked at spain or greece particular that of fte jerez?
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Moto - if you are looking at Canada, then I would think about Harvs Air in Steinbach, Manitoba (not far from Winnipeg). There are at least 265 clear days a year there, no weather problems. Speak to Adam
Edhelms,
Some training organisations in the US are controlled by a parent training organisation based in EU. For these overseas training operations there is no need for direct EASA oversight and therefore the organisation details are not included in the list provided by CaptainSpock. An example fitting this description is Naples Air Center in Florida.
Moto,
Canada offers open work permits to youths and post-graduates which includes training for a Canadian flight instructor rating: see special cases at the bottom of Find out if you?re eligible ? Post-graduation work permit.
Some training organisations in the US are controlled by a parent training organisation based in EU. For these overseas training operations there is no need for direct EASA oversight and therefore the organisation details are not included in the list provided by CaptainSpock. An example fitting this description is Naples Air Center in Florida.
Moto,
I'm currently researching Canada. No visa for PPL training as long as its less than 6month.
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Hello,
I am currently from Denmark, and wondering if I can go to (naples air center) and take their EASA program, and convert this into the EU? Has anyone from Europe been successful doing this? And what parent organization does Naples air center belong to?
I am currently from Denmark, and wondering if I can go to (naples air center) and take their EASA program, and convert this into the EU? Has anyone from Europe been successful doing this? And what parent organization does Naples air center belong to?
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All things considered you are probably better off to do the EASA PPL somewhere in Eastern Europe, then have the license issued in Denmark. This is a common procedure. Saves visa hassle, travel costs, double medical etc compared to doing it in the US and its probably just as fast weather being great in summer in that region.
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1Theplaneman - there are many thousands of Europeans who have trained in the USA over the last 25 years at a school approved by EASA (or by the UK CAA in the old days) so no conversion is required if you go to one of them. You can literally do all the training and flight tests in the USA at one of these schools and then just apply for your licence to be issued by Denmark (or any other European NAA).
There used to be more than 15 schools approved in the USA, today only a handful remain due to more strict rules from EASA.
In Florida, I believe only 2 schools (fixed wing) have direct approval from EASA and another 2 have EASA approval satellited from a UK school, either one can give you what you need.
Direct EASA - European Flight Training (Ft Pierce) & Florida Institute of Technology (Melbourne)
Satellite Approval from UK - Pilots Paradise (Sebastian) & Naples Air Center (Naples)
as portos8 says, not really possible at the moment with the travel ban, but once this is lifted I would highly recommend USA as compared to Eastern Europe, not just because I live here, but based on the many thousands that have done so successfully over so many years.
There used to be more than 15 schools approved in the USA, today only a handful remain due to more strict rules from EASA.
In Florida, I believe only 2 schools (fixed wing) have direct approval from EASA and another 2 have EASA approval satellited from a UK school, either one can give you what you need.
Direct EASA - European Flight Training (Ft Pierce) & Florida Institute of Technology (Melbourne)
Satellite Approval from UK - Pilots Paradise (Sebastian) & Naples Air Center (Naples)
as portos8 says, not really possible at the moment with the travel ban, but once this is lifted I would highly recommend USA as compared to Eastern Europe, not just because I live here, but based on the many thousands that have done so successfully over so many years.
