Minimum Flying Hours Request by airlines
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Minimum Flying Hours Request by airlines
Well i don't know if this is the right place to post my thread, but here it goes.
Why is always request by any kind of airliner or regional, this quind of requirements?
Minimum Flying Hours Required:
Total 1500 hours
500 hours Multi-Engine
If i finish my course i will never but never meet this quind of requirements, HOW CAN THIS BE?
Why is always request by any kind of airliner or regional, this quind of requirements?
Minimum Flying Hours Required:
Total 1500 hours
500 hours Multi-Engine
If i finish my course i will never but never meet this quind of requirements, HOW CAN THIS BE?
Surely that was obvious before you started your course?
So find your strategy to build hours - or look for a more realistic job for a low hour newly qualified pilot than airlines.
So find your strategy to build hours - or look for a more realistic job for a low hour newly qualified pilot than airlines.
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Please understand that the following remarks are not meant to be demeaning or degrading to any individual. However, that being said, the global pilot shortage, that is / is not here is food for the unscrupulous.
Over here in the States we have a magazine that has been around for almost 75 years, Popular Mechanics. Look in the back of any Popular Mechanics magazine and you will find the following type of advertisement.
"Yes now you too can earn big money; at home, in your spare time, learn to be a [small engine mechanic], [electronics technician], [taxidermist], [chain saw sharpener and repairman], [medical technician] [brain surgeon] and of course [airline pilot]. Yes, you too can be a "zero to hero" in less than a year. Airlines are hiring...don't wait ...call us today.
I strongly suggest, particularly in the age of the internet, that anyone who wants to become a professional pilot learn everything they can about the carriers, what they require to be hired and his realistic prospects. If you are not a teenager then you really need to know what the job / industry actually entails before they embark on training for this career.
I was the proverbial kid at the airport fence, back before it got too expensive for people to fly, and soled and got my private in high school. This was before deregulation in the US. It worked I got on with a major and now have less than 5 years to retirement.
I sympathize with those who hate their jobs and see that they might have a flying career. You had better love this thing called flying because the pay and working conditions, at least here in the US at the regional level, are nothing to write home about. You will make a living but barely. You will spend a great deal of money to get there. The life is hard on your body and your family.
The path to a major carrier is still long and there are many qualities that the companies are looking for that are not particularly flight training related, like University Degrees, overall personality [Delta and Southwest in particular] and other qualities they don't divulge but they do grade and measure.
The woods are full of qualified pilots with thousands of hours in command on jet equipment that can't get an interview a major carrier int he US. I don't do the hiring so I don't know why that is, but it is a barrier.
I suggest any one embarking on this carirer path give serious consideration to what lies ahead. The adds in the magazines have been touting success for years and flight schools are in the business of making money training students.
I feel for the person who starts this carrier but then finds he is not qualified upon graduation. However, as in all things in life, "Caveat Emptor."
Over here in the States we have a magazine that has been around for almost 75 years, Popular Mechanics. Look in the back of any Popular Mechanics magazine and you will find the following type of advertisement.
"Yes now you too can earn big money; at home, in your spare time, learn to be a [small engine mechanic], [electronics technician], [taxidermist], [chain saw sharpener and repairman], [medical technician] [brain surgeon] and of course [airline pilot]. Yes, you too can be a "zero to hero" in less than a year. Airlines are hiring...don't wait ...call us today.
I strongly suggest, particularly in the age of the internet, that anyone who wants to become a professional pilot learn everything they can about the carriers, what they require to be hired and his realistic prospects. If you are not a teenager then you really need to know what the job / industry actually entails before they embark on training for this career.
I was the proverbial kid at the airport fence, back before it got too expensive for people to fly, and soled and got my private in high school. This was before deregulation in the US. It worked I got on with a major and now have less than 5 years to retirement.
I sympathize with those who hate their jobs and see that they might have a flying career. You had better love this thing called flying because the pay and working conditions, at least here in the US at the regional level, are nothing to write home about. You will make a living but barely. You will spend a great deal of money to get there. The life is hard on your body and your family.
The path to a major carrier is still long and there are many qualities that the companies are looking for that are not particularly flight training related, like University Degrees, overall personality [Delta and Southwest in particular] and other qualities they don't divulge but they do grade and measure.
The woods are full of qualified pilots with thousands of hours in command on jet equipment that can't get an interview a major carrier int he US. I don't do the hiring so I don't know why that is, but it is a barrier.
I suggest any one embarking on this carirer path give serious consideration to what lies ahead. The adds in the magazines have been touting success for years and flight schools are in the business of making money training students.
I feel for the person who starts this carrier but then finds he is not qualified upon graduation. However, as in all things in life, "Caveat Emptor."
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I'm no expert, but isn't 1500hrs minimum requirement for an ATPL? Otherwise it is "frozen"?
I am assuming that the airlines that take one cadets with a "frozen" ATPL have to fly with a training captain to get around this need for ATPL?
I am assuming that the airlines that take one cadets with a "frozen" ATPL have to fly with a training captain to get around this need for ATPL?
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The atpl is required to be a captain of a multicrew aircraft.
The first officer can have either that after they jump through some hoops one of which is 1500 hours or a cpl which is a commercial pilots license.
The cpl holder will fly with a training captain when they first start with a company but after they meet certain standards they are let loose with normal line captain.
The first officer can have either that after they jump through some hoops one of which is 1500 hours or a cpl which is a commercial pilots license.
The cpl holder will fly with a training captain when they first start with a company but after they meet certain standards they are let loose with normal line captain.
kuri0sity, when you finish at your flying school, you leave with a bare minimum, entry level qualification into this industry and *not* a guaranteed stroll into what is considered one of the top end jobs.
Why did you think otherwise?
Why did you think otherwise?
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Either-
The best form of sarcasm ever, in which case he's out foxed you all.
Or the most ill-informed over optimistic wannabe to walk the Earth.
Which one do you think he is?
The best form of sarcasm ever, in which case he's out foxed you all.
Or the most ill-informed over optimistic wannabe to walk the Earth.
Which one do you think he is?
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Or his dad works in a different culture to your own and it is more than likely that he will complete his training and then become a second officer in QA.
This is hardly strange even in Europe where the kids of senior pilots get there first job through contacts of their family.
The statement of this fact though on an open forum though is immature and just basically poo stirring.
This is hardly strange even in Europe where the kids of senior pilots get there first job through contacts of their family.
The statement of this fact though on an open forum though is immature and just basically poo stirring.
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yes it does happen, straight into the RHS of a 747-800 freighter was the last one I know.
I wouldn't say there is huge numbers,
If I had a kid that was of that age I could do it as well and more than likely would if they wanted to be a pilot.
Its the same with technician training. I am actually hugely in favour of that if their dad is a goodun. A good engineer is definitely genetic and if they have the brain and touch for it, plus if dad is a stickler for quality and good practise they very quickly become good engineers.
I might add my child would know to keep their gobs firmly shut on the subject. Hopefully they would know that anyway without having to be told.
I wouldn't say there is huge numbers,
If I had a kid that was of that age I could do it as well and more than likely would if they wanted to be a pilot.
Its the same with technician training. I am actually hugely in favour of that if their dad is a goodun. A good engineer is definitely genetic and if they have the brain and touch for it, plus if dad is a stickler for quality and good practise they very quickly become good engineers.
I might add my child would know to keep their gobs firmly shut on the subject. Hopefully they would know that anyway without having to be told.
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Well due to the fact that my father works for Qatar airways once I've completed my CPL/IR etc. I expect to be joining QAC to convert my skills and from there train and build more hours under the QA regulations. hope i embark on my mission without any of the dilemmas above :o
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Well due to the fact that my father works for Qatar airways once I've completed my CPL/IR etc. I expect to be joining QAC to convert my skills and from there train and build more hours under the QA regulations. hope i embark on my mission without any of the dilemmas above :o
Seriously though, this is endemic in the industry in certain parts of the world. The stories are abounding of 'kids' buying their way into positions through connections; and talking to one training captain he could only trust 1 in 100 new pilots to carry out even the most basic of operations without being spoon fed all the way through.....and as for leaving the flight deck....not a chance! Legs crossed, teeth in grit mode, watch my tracer on shutdown......
Well due to the fact that my father works for Qatar airways once I've completed my CPL/IR etc. I expect to be joining QAC to convert my skills and from there train and build more hours under the QA regulations. hope i embark on my mission without any of the dilemmas above :o