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Old 3rd Aug 2010, 14:11
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hey guys,
i am an indian national based in the middle east, i am planning to get a JAA ATPL.
i wanted to know one thing, many people on this forum say, that for an expat to work in the EU, you need the right to work, to get the right to work in the EU, is a residency visa/work visa enough, or do you actually need to acquire a citizenship.
Also , i am planning to the integrated course for the license, can anyone recommend any good academies? My budget is around 110k USD.

thanks a lot
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Old 12th Aug 2010, 17:16
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cmon guys!!!
94 views but not 1 of you reply!! whats up?!?!!?
 
Old 12th Aug 2010, 18:27
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In the UK, Oxford Aviation Academy, CTC and Cabair.
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Old 12th Aug 2010, 19:19
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FTE (Flight Training Europe) is also a sound FTO, it is based in Jerez, Spain.
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Old 13th Aug 2010, 06:47
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You need a minimum of a work visa. To get a work visa you need to have an employer who will sponsor you for that visa. That employer has to prove that they cannot recruit any EU citizens with the same qualifications.

In aviation, that it unlikely.

Citizenship though will entitle you to work in the EU.

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Old 13th Aug 2010, 09:08
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hey guys, thanks a lot
@spymell, well i am based in dubai and the minimum requiremnts of most of the airlines here in the ME are pretty high, so i was thinking that as i do have a JAA ATPL, which is obv widely accepted in the EU, i can fly for a couple of years in europe and build hours and many airlines accept guys fresh from the academy, and once i have enough hours, i can return back to the ME and join a high flyer..
and as for the asian countries, you would need to do a conversion course right??
approx, how long does it take??
thanks
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Old 13th Aug 2010, 11:07
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There are not MANY airlines hiring lower hours, and the few there are there is probably 100 applications for 1 position.

However the most basic problem for you with EU, is do you have work permit for Europe?
Do you have an EU passport?

The process to get work permit in Europe is not east nor fast, and probably not a lack of pilots in Europe at the moment, to be able to justify giving you a work permit. European law, they must search nationals and EU nationals first, if none available, only then can I they give work permit to a non EU national.

Do you think there is a pilot shortage in Europe now?
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Old 13th Aug 2010, 11:36
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hmm...all right, thanks for the pointer...
i'll start looking at other places then...
thanks
 
Old 20th Aug 2010, 21:47
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hey,
@spymell, yeah dude, i would av joined the etihad or emirates cadet scheme if i were emirati..
i am an indian, so i dont qualify..dats d prob..
was your friend an indian or some other nationality?
cause he was a non-indian, he would enter through the foreign pilot scheme which is relatively easier than the the scheme for indian nationals...so, if i would convert and join, it would be much more difficult for me.
anyways guys, my apologies for not mentioning this earlier, but by the time i actually "enter the market", it would be around 2017, i am still in high school...
so, yes there is not much of a shortage of pilots in EU, but what will be the scene in 2017??
will i be able to join a small airline just to get enough hours so i would be eligible to join a high flyer either in the middle east of india(ofcourse after conversion)??
thanks a lot
cheers
 

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