Highland Flying School in Administration?
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There isn't anything in your training records which can be used that you haven't already provided if you have been a member.
There will be a sheet with all your flights recorded and depending how verbose the instructors was either exercise number and SATIS next to it or a bit more long winded if you had things to sort out.
If you examination form was in there it will have you exam marks on it. And if solo a copy of you medical if they have bothered taking one.
There will be a sheet with all your flights recorded and depending how verbose the instructors was either exercise number and SATIS next to it or a bit more long winded if you had things to sort out.
If you examination form was in there it will have you exam marks on it. And if solo a copy of you medical if they have bothered taking one.
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Training records should have been kept and Peter should be able to copy them for students, I suspect he will do this although difficult in the short term with the building being secured by the airport at present.
Otherwise check with Flight crew licensing, Gatwick.
Training still exists at Inverness but it is obviously it is in flux at present with only limited space.
It will improve and stabilise but probably not to the previous levels.
There is also training at Kinloss cheaper, more hassle in some ways but good, it depends where you live and your individual circumstances.
As per Mad Jock and others the flying is pretty spectacular up here but the costs have risen.
Can I make a request that we all get back to flying and try to help people out that have been caught up in all this. I am sure Kinloss will try to do the same. There are going to be a lot of students out there needing a hand.
Finally, with regards to the HAC requesting all the training records I would think this very unlikely to have happened and even more unlikely to be complied with.
Otherwise check with Flight crew licensing, Gatwick.
Training still exists at Inverness but it is obviously it is in flux at present with only limited space.
It will improve and stabilise but probably not to the previous levels.
There is also training at Kinloss cheaper, more hassle in some ways but good, it depends where you live and your individual circumstances.
As per Mad Jock and others the flying is pretty spectacular up here but the costs have risen.
Can I make a request that we all get back to flying and try to help people out that have been caught up in all this. I am sure Kinloss will try to do the same. There are going to be a lot of students out there needing a hand.
Finally, with regards to the HAC requesting all the training records I would think this very unlikely to have happened and even more unlikely to be complied with.
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sw your still wearing the rose tinted glasses
there house has been done up since Christmas ready for the great escape !!
time will tell, i ain't holding my breath
sw feel free to visit as a lot of people still do
people were putting in money only two weeks ago, and they took it in the knowledge that the were closing, that isn't a bad business decision.
you can make up your own mind as to what it is.
i know what the people who got caught out think of it.. the advice from there lawyers are all, surprise surprise of the same opinion.
time will tell, i ain't holding my breath
sw feel free to visit as a lot of people still do
people were putting in money only two weeks ago, and they took it in the knowledge that the were closing, that isn't a bad business decision.
you can make up your own mind as to what it is.
i know what the people who got caught out think of it.. the advice from there lawyers are all, surprise surprise of the same opinion.
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Some of you may need this
Administrator
Mr. Darral Warwick
Armstrong Watson
Fairview House
Victoria Place
CA1 1HP
T: 01228 591000
I spoke to the airport today. They have not been told what to do with any contents of the building and have secured it for all obvious reasons, this includes training records.
I was with HFS and have around 14 hours. Now looking for another provider who can take learning credits and hopefully fly tomahawks... HAC?
Mr. Darral Warwick
Armstrong Watson
Fairview House
Victoria Place
CA1 1HP
T: 01228 591000
I spoke to the airport today. They have not been told what to do with any contents of the building and have secured it for all obvious reasons, this includes training records.
I was with HFS and have around 14 hours. Now looking for another provider who can take learning credits and hopefully fly tomahawks... HAC?
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Just after sending my last, the postman pops through a letter informing me that I can continue my NPPL with HFS and use my ELC.
Lucky for me that did not come last week otherwise I would have lost the lot! (might get a loto ticket today)
On a side note, what happened to the instructors etc?
XV255
Lucky for me that did not come last week otherwise I would have lost the lot! (might get a loto ticket today)
On a side note, what happened to the instructors etc?
XV255
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Just re-read the posts I don't think its a committee member who is stirring everything.
I think you lot are going to have to blame someone else apart from any of them for the posts. And Mr Blobby although gifted with the same ability as myself of putting ones foot in the mouth would certainly not post pished.
Pete's obviously come under the rath of the Alderqueer feud network. I am not surprised he is legging it. There will be a bit of white settler doing well all thrown in as well.
I think you lot are going to have to blame someone else apart from any of them for the posts. And Mr Blobby although gifted with the same ability as myself of putting ones foot in the mouth would certainly not post pished.
Pete's obviously come under the rath of the Alderqueer feud network. I am not surprised he is legging it. There will be a bit of white settler doing well all thrown in as well.
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I believe the connection lately between HFS and HAC is yet another of the bad decisions pehaps coming from the M + P school of business.
HAC were not allowed to sub let their property at inverness airport.... enough said.
I do not think that HAC were very instrumental in the demise of HFS but not entirely blameless.
On the HAC commitee getting the HFS passes cancelled (if this is true) then why have they not cancelled their own ex members passes (of which I used one only last thursday). They should get their own house in order first.
Why would HFS pass holders require to use them to get airside now HFS are not flying ? (hopefully in future).is this not a security risk....
When I did not renew my membership with HAC (mainly because the all powerfull commitee (and the longer serving members did give them this power) did not find it nessasary to contact members before making serious decisions or were transparent about a future training provider) i changed my airport pass with airport authorities at no cost whatsoever.
I now believe the charge levied for passes issued to HAC members goes straight into HAC coffers.
They may have my pass back when they refund the charge otherwise it will remain my keepsake. It is also handy to have 2 incase I decide to go flying and dont have my personal flying kit with me...ha ha
On a more serious note i have been told by security changes are afoot in this department anyway, so I may end up with two keepsakes of the best flying in the country.
Maggie would you please refrain from having other people post your bidding on this site and have the bottle to do it yourself and sign it so..... (you all know who you are)'
Derek Inverness
HAC were not allowed to sub let their property at inverness airport.... enough said.
I do not think that HAC were very instrumental in the demise of HFS but not entirely blameless.
On the HAC commitee getting the HFS passes cancelled (if this is true) then why have they not cancelled their own ex members passes (of which I used one only last thursday). They should get their own house in order first.
Why would HFS pass holders require to use them to get airside now HFS are not flying ? (hopefully in future).is this not a security risk....
When I did not renew my membership with HAC (mainly because the all powerfull commitee (and the longer serving members did give them this power) did not find it nessasary to contact members before making serious decisions or were transparent about a future training provider) i changed my airport pass with airport authorities at no cost whatsoever.
I now believe the charge levied for passes issued to HAC members goes straight into HAC coffers.
They may have my pass back when they refund the charge otherwise it will remain my keepsake. It is also handy to have 2 incase I decide to go flying and dont have my personal flying kit with me...ha ha
On a more serious note i have been told by security changes are afoot in this department anyway, so I may end up with two keepsakes of the best flying in the country.
Maggie would you please refrain from having other people post your bidding on this site and have the bottle to do it yourself and sign it so..... (you all know who you are)'
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Blimey this is a bit of a shock!
I have gained around 18 hours at HFS then stopped due to moving down to Liverpool for work and I completely forgot about the place until today when I wanted to book myself a few refreshers!
It's a real shame that the school has closed, I always found the staff to be very friendly and there was always a good atmosphere when I trained there.
I'm sure this question may have been asked before, so sorry beforehand but can anyone advise me how I could receive my training records?
Many thanks,
Owen
I have gained around 18 hours at HFS then stopped due to moving down to Liverpool for work and I completely forgot about the place until today when I wanted to book myself a few refreshers!
It's a real shame that the school has closed, I always found the staff to be very friendly and there was always a good atmosphere when I trained there.
I'm sure this question may have been asked before, so sorry beforehand but can anyone advise me how I could receive my training records?
Many thanks,
Owen
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I don't have a clue who it is, and I am not really surprised one of the southern schools will soon be pitching up.
100 plus PPL students in the area to finish off.
Have you applied for the receptionist's job yet no bearde woman?
And which ever school it is, you would be well advised not to mail shot any membership lists that have come into your possession. The people up north are quite different to down south and it could back fire quite spectacularly
100 plus PPL students in the area to finish off.
Have you applied for the receptionist's job yet no bearde woman?
And which ever school it is, you would be well advised not to mail shot any membership lists that have come into your possession. The people up north are quite different to down south and it could back fire quite spectacularly
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Have you applied for the receptionist's job yet no bearde woman?
As many others have said the flying at HFS was superb. It was a shame that it and the apparent friendliness were rarely matched by comments once the door had closed behind people, especially former instructors. I suspect medical issues might have had a certain amount to do with this, and coping with the various political issues can hardly have been easy! Whatever the circumstances - and sadly I know rather more than I want to about them and how little credit they do some people - the source of flying in Inverness will be greatly missed. A collection of privately owned aircraft in a drafty & damp hangar can in no way replace a busy flying school as a means of entertainment and easy thrills!
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New training Provider
Well there aren't many flying training providers around in Scotland!
But Inverness could do a lot worse. Once thing is for sure, if it is the team from the central belt then a friendlier and more professional outfit you couldn't hope to meet.
However, the only thing louder than the sound of piston engines turning under this particular regime will be the sound of cash registers ringing... get ready for a culture shock.
I wish those (All) who have lost out in this the very best of luck but for my money, Inverness will never be the same again.
Squawk
But Inverness could do a lot worse. Once thing is for sure, if it is the team from the central belt then a friendlier and more professional outfit you couldn't hope to meet.
However, the only thing louder than the sound of piston engines turning under this particular regime will be the sound of cash registers ringing... get ready for a culture shock.
I wish those (All) who have lost out in this the very best of luck but for my money, Inverness will never be the same again.
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HAC have posted personal details of the Brooks rather than posting the name and address of the administrator. Hardly the act of a friendly flying club. If I was them I would take it down.
I had thought no bearde woman was one of two people, both of whom are irritating but only one has such poor grammar, I guess prison does that to some folk.
Personally I thought it was Blobby but I can at least credit him with the ability to know the difference between There, Their and They're.
I heard on the grape vine that both Maggie and Peter have started contacting their creditors. People will get something back it seems
and they haven't disappeared to Newcastle after all.
There are one of two training providers that I can think of, Leading Edge who want their instructors self employed and have the strangest looking payment schemes or Tayside Aviation who will have everyone wearing stripes and ties!
Don't really know alot about either of them but they can't be any less organised that HAC or HFS
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Then again, Administration is only the beginning, it's possible that they might find a buyer for HFS or they might want to try and trade out of the current situation given that they wouldn't be able to sell the Tomahawks or the warrior.
I had thought no bearde woman was one of two people, both of whom are irritating but only one has such poor grammar, I guess prison does that to some folk.
Personally I thought it was Blobby but I can at least credit him with the ability to know the difference between There, Their and They're.I heard on the grape vine that both Maggie and Peter have started contacting their creditors. People will get something back it seems
and they haven't disappeared to Newcastle after all.There are one of two training providers that I can think of, Leading Edge who want their instructors self employed and have the strangest looking payment schemes or Tayside Aviation who will have everyone wearing stripes and ties!
Don't really know alot about either of them but they can't be any less organised that HAC or HFS
.Then again, Administration is only the beginning, it's possible that they might find a buyer for HFS or they might want to try and trade out of the current situation given that they wouldn't be able to sell the Tomahawks or the warrior.
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I've checked with Armstrong Watson to confirm they are actually the appointed administrators. FYI a liquidation meeting is being planned for the 6th April.
As one of the many creditors they now have my contact details.
As one of the many creditors they now have my contact details.
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Personally I think it will be a fleeting visit of the new school. The airport rent is fecking expensive even for a box room.
The ball ache of getting the planes south every 50 hours cannot be described. Thank god for the VFR corridor down the A9 with a train track taking you where you want to go.
I think after people have been stung in Inverness for the trial flights the market won't be the same again for years.
The weekly flyers will split themselves between Kinloss and Highland Flying and the new lot, the intensive courses will disappear or go to Kinloss. HIghland flying doesn't really need any great numbers in fact to many and it becomes a pain. It will be still be by far the cheapest on the site just because of its fixed costs by having access to the HAC building.
In a years time HAC will still shaft Moray at the spot landing competition at Fern, the committee will still be winding members up, the gents toilets will still be minging. Will the new school will still be around? I have my doubts but only time will tell.
And Madlandrover about 90% of the past instructors all either work with each other or still occasionally see each other. It is well known what comments are made about us after we leave. It actually became a bit of a joke. The fact that 6 years after you left you could provoke a 15 min tirade by just taxing past in a Jetstream is really quite remarkable.
The ball ache of getting the planes south every 50 hours cannot be described. Thank god for the VFR corridor down the A9 with a train track taking you where you want to go.
I think after people have been stung in Inverness for the trial flights the market won't be the same again for years.
The weekly flyers will split themselves between Kinloss and Highland Flying and the new lot, the intensive courses will disappear or go to Kinloss. HIghland flying doesn't really need any great numbers in fact to many and it becomes a pain. It will be still be by far the cheapest on the site just because of its fixed costs by having access to the HAC building.
In a years time HAC will still shaft Moray at the spot landing competition at Fern, the committee will still be winding members up, the gents toilets will still be minging. Will the new school will still be around? I have my doubts but only time will tell.
And Madlandrover about 90% of the past instructors all either work with each other or still occasionally see each other. It is well known what comments are made about us after we leave. It actually became a bit of a joke. The fact that 6 years after you left you could provoke a 15 min tirade by just taxing past in a Jetstream is really quite remarkable.
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Where do i go??
In reference to arr, i was one of those who saved up money from a paper round and did luckily complete my training last month. Forget all the politics can anyone tell me if i can hire aircraft to continue flying. I am relatively young and just want to do what i love and trained for. FLY!!!!
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With reference to an earlier post by Arr who is worried about the training logs and exam results - I spoke to both the CAA and the Administrators today and they have agreed that the records will be sent to the CAA where they can be forwarded to whichever training organisation you choose to go with to finish your training.
I too have completed 19 hours but have paid for 45.
As an 'outsider', not knowing who any of the posters are or the politics between the school and the club; is anyone willing to offer some advice on who to continue my training with or where all the speculation comes from? Initially I was worried with all the talk of the Brooks 'doing a runner' and the 'non-existant' administrators but it seems that some of the info posted can't be entirely accurate after all.
PM's gratefully received if too shy to post publicly
Regards to all,
Dave Young
I too have completed 19 hours but have paid for 45.
As an 'outsider', not knowing who any of the posters are or the politics between the school and the club; is anyone willing to offer some advice on who to continue my training with or where all the speculation comes from? Initially I was worried with all the talk of the Brooks 'doing a runner' and the 'non-existant' administrators but it seems that some of the info posted can't be entirely accurate after all.
PM's gratefully received if too shy to post publicly
Regards to all,
Dave Young
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To be honest soaring and I know it might cost a bit.
Why don't you go and try and get 6 of you together that are in the same boat and approach the administrator and see if you can buy one of the tommys. You should be able to get one for 2k-2.5k a share. Just phone up Dundee and offer large amounts of beer to the engineers to tell you which one is the best.
You can leave it with HF to rent out if you so wish to cover some of the fixed costs.
In fact if anyone does decided to go down this route give me a PM as I would be interested and I can think of someone else who may be as well.
And what am I say spot landing at Fern I meant Dornoch.
Why don't you go and try and get 6 of you together that are in the same boat and approach the administrator and see if you can buy one of the tommys. You should be able to get one for 2k-2.5k a share. Just phone up Dundee and offer large amounts of beer to the engineers to tell you which one is the best.
You can leave it with HF to rent out if you so wish to cover some of the fixed costs.
In fact if anyone does decided to go down this route give me a PM as I would be interested and I can think of someone else who may be as well.
And what am I say spot landing at Fern I meant Dornoch.