Growing Evidence That The Upturn Is Upon Us
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Expect a few more Dubai instances...
Also keep an eye on the unstable situation developing with Iran due to their expanding/building new Nuclear installations, which is causing a few problems with other countries
Also keep an eye on the unstable situation developing with Iran due to their expanding/building new Nuclear installations, which is causing a few problems with other countries
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As a younger and highly motivated PPL I faced similar a situation in the USA in the early eighties and the general opinion from those in the industry was don't bother wasting $16k with CPL/ME/IR /CFII as there aren't any jobs.
I really regreted that decision as the cost doesn't ever get cheaper, I was in a fantastic place (albeit at the wrong time). There were guys on the street at traffic lights with signs saying "will work for food"
Had I done it then time was on my side and I would have seen many cycles in the industry. My advice fo9r what it is worth is seize the moment and go for it if you are young, you make your own luck and may just be in the right place at the right time, there are many facets to flying not all airlines.
I really regreted that decision as the cost doesn't ever get cheaper, I was in a fantastic place (albeit at the wrong time). There were guys on the street at traffic lights with signs saying "will work for food"
Had I done it then time was on my side and I would have seen many cycles in the industry. My advice fo9r what it is worth is seize the moment and go for it if you are young, you make your own luck and may just be in the right place at the right time, there are many facets to flying not all airlines.
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Had I done it then time was on my side and I would have seen many cycles in the industry. My advice fo9r what it is worth is seize the moment and go for it if you are young, you make your own luck and may just be in the right place at the right time, there are many facets to flying not all airlines.
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My advice fo9r what it is worth is seize the moment and go for it if you are young, you make your own luck and may just be in the right place at the right time, there are many facets to flying not all airlines
I'm still going to get my qualifications done (I know I'll regret it if I don't), you only live once and recessions don't last for ever. I'd rather train when I'm younger and I can make a career of it rather than waiting until I'm 40 odd. The way things are going at the moment, I expect airline job prospects to appear again when I'm approaching mid 30's, if not slightly before that, so I'll be doing another career in the mean time, but I'm still getting on with it!
rather than being absorbed in the world of negative people.
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I'm thinking the exact same thing guys, it's all i've ever wanted to do and by hook or by crook i'm gonna do it but i ain't silly enough to blow 100k on the way there.
I'm currently 1/2 way thought my ppl with the intention of continuing on at my own pace and planning being all finished up 2012/13 without a penny of debt and a few quid spare if the chance of a job with self funded type rating comes up.
I'm loving my flying at the minute and it's even better know i can speed it up or slow down depending on how the industry looks. I always thought i'd go integrated but having thought long and hard about it and taken advice from great sources such as this forum i wouldn't dream of it with the state of things at present
FLY AS YOU EARN
I'm currently 1/2 way thought my ppl with the intention of continuing on at my own pace and planning being all finished up 2012/13 without a penny of debt and a few quid spare if the chance of a job with self funded type rating comes up.
I'm loving my flying at the minute and it's even better know i can speed it up or slow down depending on how the industry looks. I always thought i'd go integrated but having thought long and hard about it and taken advice from great sources such as this forum i wouldn't dream of it with the state of things at present
FLY AS YOU EARN
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With that attitude I suspect you will make it eventually. Why? Because chief pilots really want rational, cautiously proactive pilots. The former is not shown by throwing money at a large school for an integrated course, the latter is not shown by waiting until the industry picks up before starting (which in any case might well mean you are qualified in time for the next collapse).
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Because chief pilots really want rational, cautiously proactive pilots. The former is not shown by throwing money at a large school for an integrated course
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Originally Posted by 12Watt Tim
With that attitude I suspect you will make it eventually. Why? Because chief pilots really want rational, cautiously proactive pilots.
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Go for it but don't get into silly debt and be prepared for a long haul
I do believe that you can work your butt off but you also need a bit of luck also so there are definitely no guarantees.
If you approach it with that frame of mind then what have you got to loose (apart from wads of paper with Her Majesty's face printed on it).
I do believe that you can work your butt off but you also need a bit of luck also so there are definitely no guarantees.
If you approach it with that frame of mind then what have you got to loose (apart from wads of paper with Her Majesty's face printed on it).
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Just goes to show that money doesn't bring happiness!! ... but maybe what you do with it! 
Yes we're losing income/wages to do something we want to do that brings us happiness and a purpose in life. I've always known what mine was and I won't find out until I do it!
If you have goals, they are achievable IF you put in the effort.
Yes we're losing income/wages to do something we want to do that brings us happiness and a purpose in life. I've always known what mine was and I won't find out until I do it!
If you have goals, they are achievable IF you put in the effort.
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I understand that getting even an interview will be the single most difficult thing i'll face along the process and that a lot of it will be down to speaking to the right people, in the right place, at the right time, but the way i'm looking at it is.. i'd rather spend whatever length of time it takes trying without a penny of debt rather than having 100k hanging over my head!
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I think Thomson Airways are about to well and truly screw the market place! We are talking whole new career time for the newly qualified and wannabes!
This industry is just appaulling!
This industry is just appaulling!
Taken from the Thomson Fly thread in T&Cs forum - 110-150 pilots to go. That's people who have been working at the company up to 4 years.
"No recruitment planned till summer 2012...then there will be a need for 40 pilots"
"Contract pilots crewing it in the summer and parked up somewhere cheap in the winter"
"Contract pilots crewing it in the summer and parked up somewhere cheap in the winter"
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The best thing to do right now is start training and buy multiple Type Ratings in every aircraft that operates in Europe, after that go to Eagle Jet and buy large quantities of hours. This will show your dedication to this profession. Good luck!