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Old 6th Nov 2006, 10:31
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Hi Slow Progress,

As the company training advisor, i do try to respond to all emails ASAP, most on the same day depending on how complex your question might be, I have been away for the weekend for the Flyer show at Heathrow so I do now have a backlog, but please PM me and I will dig about to find you, the junk filter may even of binned you?

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I would like to know, after you finish the training, do you help with getting an interview with airlines, and what kind of help do you give to graduates.

do egnatia graduates get employment straight away, or is hour building essential in order to secure an interview??

are the standards as high as OAT, in terms of training, and service, also i couldnt find any information about 737 or a320 sims?

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Old 6th Nov 2006, 12:17
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hello hamid,

Egnatia are mainly a core training provider - they do exactly as they say, they will teach you the ATPLs, train you for CPL and IR...your paying for this only and paying at a very good price.

As far as I know they dont have sims or marketing stratagies, do a little bit more reading (I recommend the OAT thread, especially the last couple of pages - theres a good post by "Robbed 60 grand" about OAT and employment statistics).
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Originally Posted by edymonster
Can anyone give me a bit of info in what there is to see while hour building form Kavala airport? Is it good backpacking country or do you always have to return to base every night? Also what is the deal with isalnd hopping in a SE aircraft, is it encouraged or is it not recommended by the establishment?

Hello there!!

As a current student here im taking the pleasure to reassure u that island hoping it is permitted and i have had some of the best experiences of my entire life doing it! Greece is famous fr its holidays resorts so by arrangement and as i said before usually during weekends u can pick a plane with another fellow pilot log about 4 hours flying time and stay overnight whenever u like around greece!
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Hi all,

Im thinking about going to Egnatia Aviation instead of an FTO in the UK such as Oxford, whos prices are sky high, mainly because of the name.

Egnatia have an amazing new fleet of Diamond da40 and da42, better aircraft that most FTOs in the UK.

because the cost of the course is low, you can consider paying for a type rating, or even hour build for a while to get to airline standard, and most proberly would be left alot of change from what one could pay at an FTO in the UK, and the good thing is accommodation is included!

i think i will go over in Jan to pay a visit, and hopefully join soon after.

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Will you be doing the 0 to fATPL?

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hi AirCockroaches

yea i will be doing the 0 - fATPL, are you thinking of doing the same? the place looks awsome. even though they dont have sims, the money can be spent on that else where.



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Old 16th Nov 2006, 19:23
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No Hamid

I will actually do my CPL/IR in a slightly different manner!

I already have a JAA PPL so I will go modular, licence by licence.


Best of luck.

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By the way,

Does anyone know if I can have reduced hours for the 0 to fATPL if I already own a JAA PPL(A)?

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Originally Posted by aircockroaches
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Does anyone know if I can have reduced hours for the 0 to fATPL if I already own a JAA PPL(A)?

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As far as i know ur whole PPL will be deducted !
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Has anyone done an IR conversion with them? If so what have did they think of it and what were the training standards like? Were they treated the same as the integrated guys or at the bottom of the pile so to speak when it came to priority.
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hey, i am thinking of visiting egnatia during the xmas holidays, could any1 tell me what would be the best way to get from the UK, pref from manchester airport, and also the costs.

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Old 19th Nov 2006, 23:02
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Hamid, as far as I can tell they have a handful of DA40 (4 as stated on previous page) and one DA42. I would be concerned as with any FTO about aircraft availability. To be fair I am told EA can lease further aircraft from Diamond if required.

Just want to keep the facts straight on wannabes
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Wink Hi

Wbryce has visited the school and has recorded his views on his website:

http://www.wbryce.co.uk/

Click on the Diaries Link then the Choosing flight school link.. I will copy and paste it here:

Pre FTO Vist at Egnatia Aviation (written 13/10/2006):
Well the time is coming!! I luckily find myself thinking about what professional FTO (flight training organization) to use for my remaining training! Even thinking about this gets me excited! Let’s go back and get an insight into my basic training philosophy so far - after reading countless threads on PPRuNe about certain wannabes experiencing financial trouble or job related stress caused by financial constraints - my vision for completing my training was to remain patient so I'm not one of those silly individuals who rushed into massive amount of debt! Then post countless whining threads about their situation, I have no sympathy for them what so ever. Every month PPRuNe will have a post with someone looking for advice - every month someone will tell them be patient, get a job, pay for some of it, do distance learning...the typical response to this healthy advise is - no they would rather take on debt, some people are just blinded with the fashion element of flying professionally or they have the patience of a 5 year old. I guess it’s a risk when taking a loan to cover your training costs, if the risk pulls off and you get decent employment then its success but the chances are slim.
Flying has always been my dream, like many others have said in the past - my first memory from childhood involves F14 (ohh go on have a guess!) What im trying to achieve is to complete my training with the least debt possible! Spending money on training doesn't stop when training is completed! There are many routes one can take to enhance their chances of employment (some more sinister than others but that’s another endless subject!!)!
Choosing a flight school will always be personnel preference mixed with other factors, the flight school I have in mind is Egnatia Aviation located in Greece. Since this FTO is based in a foreign country I must ensure that I like the location first then I must consider accommodation, people and life style, to ensure this I made a sensible decision and decided I would go over and visit Egnatia in a couple of weeks time (11th November 06 depending when you read this I've probably already been their and updated this section). The best advice to anyone who likes a training organization is to go visit them and get a feel for the place.
Why does Egnatia appeal to me? Well Egnatia doesn't have any fancy marketing techniques so I'm not lured by pretense, I've been looking at flight schools for roughly three years now and If I had a pound for every time I changed my plan then I'd be paying integrated!! Egnatia aviation only established themselves this year (2006) so they're a very new school which will obviously involve a degree of financial risk. How ever, any new school will go that extra mile with their students to ensure they establish themselves in a fierce market! I will limit my financial risk by paying as I go (the school encourages this so positive marks in them making me feel comfortable about their current financial situation!).
Another appealing factor is getting away from my current life style - I quite fancy a change and getting away from my daily routine! Moving away for a year is a very exciting prospect for me especially when there’s no distractions plus it will give me that form of Integrated social bonding with course students which I feel many Modular students miss out on - best of both worlds.
Egnatia have a brand new fleet of Diamond aircrafts (DA40s and DA42s - my first taste of Jet A1!!), so it’s quite an advanced training platform, the only thing missing is a simulator! Sometimes it makes sense in my opinion to go over some instrument flying on the ground first so the mind understands the procedure your just about to fly!
It’s my advice to all Wannabes considering FTOs to visit each school your interested in, get a feel for the place and consider - Would I enjoy being here? Does the staff seem friendly? Do the instructors seem competent? Is their any additional fees? (Be weary of additional fees, many FTOs will advertise their price at minimum training requirements minus examination costs/flight tests and accommodation - this can easily equate to another 10-15k more than quoted).
I just wish to add my thanks to Vic (a current Egnatia student) whose been very helpful on PPRuNe and offered me a place to stay during my visit, he’s also offered to pick me up at Thessaloniki airport...roughly about 130 miles from Egnatias base! So I'm very pleased with assistance Vic’s offered me!
To be continued...

Post FTO visit at Egnatia Aviation (written 14/11/2006):
You ever had that state of mind when you can't sleep the night before? Well I unfortunately had to suffer this before my journey started!! At 0430 my clock was making the most annoying noise possible, oh wait that’s my alarm! As with any early starts you get up and endure the early morning syndrome. Luckily as I arrived at Edinburgh I joined the early morning airport fire evacuation aftermath (was this a sign of things to come I asked myself!!) was I lucky in my timing or unlucky with the event?? Who knew at this point but I didn't care, I was too tired...my only objective was coffee.
I had a long day ahead, flying from Edinburgh to Gatwick then connecting onto Thessaloniki (then a 2 hour drive to Keramoti - thanks again Vic). On the flight to Thessaloniki I tried to evaluate what expectations I had and what sort of questions I need to ask in order to satisfy my feelings.
So what did I expect? Well from the pictures and recent discussions over Egnatia, I expected as with any new start up a very open armed reception, very clean aircraft and operations centre which all lived up to my expectations. I wanted to get a feel from the students as well as the staff! My main question is would I fit in with Egnatia and Greece in general?
Surprisingly 2 traditional English breakfasts later while seated in club class on BA2642 a B737-400 at flight level 37, it was time to descend and with this I knew the next 24 hours could be one of those experiences that dramatically opens another chapter in my life, one I've eagerly been anticipating for the past 2 years so I was all fired up.
Vic a current student with Egnatia agreed to pick me up and drive me back to Keramoti which was great, Vic’s a very keen aviation enthusiast and it was great to sit down, have another coffee and chat about our experiences - a high flying topic was the distraction of female flight crew, started after the recent article on page 46 of Airliner World about Tami Henderson, EasyJets latest female first officer!! She can be my captain anytime! Anyway, on the way to my accommodation we dropped into Egnatia aviation after a crazy 2 hour drive…I got the impression Wacky Races was every ones favorite cartoon over here! First impression counts so would I be greeted in a way that would positively affect my initial impression or would I be left with a negative impression? Well I was greeted by everyone, students and staff so I can safely say I received a very warm welcome. One of the directors ensured my accommodation plans were all thought out and offered me my own room as the initial plan was to stay in Vic’s house. I managed to speak to all 0-fATPL students and they all seem to be enjoying their experience. Many of them had their first ATPL exams the day after I left so the baggy eyes we're quite evident!
The school itself is situated in its own building block west of the Terminal, it’s not a new building but you can tell a lot of intensive work has been done in order to build Egnatias operations. So far I was pleased with what I was seeing. By this time it was getting quite late so we went to my accommodation and dropped off my bags and went for something to eat where we then ended up at a bar until 2am (it was a Saturday)!! But as mentioned earlier, all the fATPL's bugged out early for last minute ATPL cramming!
Entertainment factor so far was positive - It’s good that Keramoti has a few decent pubs and places to eat! The following day (Sunday) is when I officially had a look around and asked all my questions. Dave (one of the instructors) offered me a back seat flight on one of his lessons which was thoughtful! The flight was good; the LFA is about 10minutes flying time over flat land with plenty of PFL field choices...
Kavala International airport has very little traffic so mixing in with the big boys will be limited experience, its certainly not on par with UKs regional airports… although this point isn't entirely important in my opinion (mainly after countless experiences waiting behind a jet at £3 per minute!! or being told "number 5 behind a TU154, left hand orbit end of downwind"). If you’re learning your PPL you may get excited at this prospect of mixing it with commercial traffic but since I've experienced the good and bad points of this, I’m not that interested about this point during my CPL/IR.
I spoke with both directors who eased my mind about how and why Egnatia aviation started and how their future vision projects the companies’ intentions.
Overall I think my visit to Egnatia was a positive experience! And I would be happy to enroll and put my training in their hands. I would recommend anyone who has any doubts about Egnatia - visit them before spending your hard earned cash! What’s right for me isn't necessary right for you! Egnatia as far as I'm concerned will deliver what they promise...
If I choose Egnatia as my core provider - I will try my best and document each training module so everyone can get a feel and insight into what’s required.
Thanks again to Vic who arranged my accommodation, transport to and from Thessaloniki and thanks to Egnatia for making my stay a positive one. Egnatia Aviation (www.egnatia-aviation.com).
Anyone interested in Visiting Egnatia - My findings we're BA - Gatwick to Thessaloniki (daily service) then either bus or car hire. Thessaloniki is around 120 miles from Egnatia, its not ideally located for this purpose but its not that difficult to get too. Failing this if you have more time and money you could fly to Athens (daily again with BA and EasyJet) then get a connecting flight to Kavala (you may need to stay a night in Athens).

Cheers Will
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Interesting...

I'd definitely go visit them later on next year.

How about girls will, anythin special?
 
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I am planning on visiting Egnatia sometime in the new year but would still be interested in hearing about anybodys experience attending egnatia with a family especially the family accomodation. Is it big enough for 2 people plus 2 kids (2yo & baby)?
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Originally Posted by JediDude
I am planning on visiting Egnatia sometime in the new year but would still be interested in hearing about anybodys experience attending egnatia with a family especially the family accomodation. Is it big enough for 2 people plus 2 kids (2yo & baby)?
Hello JediDude and sorry for me being able to answer ur question so late.. it was just due to my ATPL exams. Egnatia offers a wide range of accomodation and yes the houses are big enough for someone with a family like yours. I would suggest though to contact the school directly by any mean so u can discuss ur situation and be allocated with a suitable room even if that will be a short visit !

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Results And News

Hello to everyone again . I am now back to normal after finishing my first stage of ground exams and i will be here more often for updates. Everything went as planned and as here in Greece we get our results straight away after the exams we had a 100% pass rate and with really good grades too. Glad with my progress and of course a big congratulation to my friends who did the same here in Greece and to all of you who sat and passed your exams anywhere else around the Globe.
Greece is using an automated system which means the exams are in an electronic form and the results are out straight after so there is no long periods of worry!
The system Egnatia is using for teaching has worked so far which is good news as i said before we were the first bunch of people sitting the exams and apart from having no previous feedback he had no clue on how the exams are here in Greece. Now we do know and i think this is helpful for all those thinking of joining Egnatia or anyother school here in greece or somewhere the same system is being used.
No more to say at the moment abd i would like to say good luck to my good friend and a former Egnatia student Jason who is going to have his type rating on a 737 with AEGEAN AIRLINES.

Anyone wishing to ask anything do no hesitate!

TAKE CARE ALL OF YOU!!!!
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Seminar

In a continuous effort to increase new pilot awareness and assist new and potential commercial pilots in Greece, Egnatia Aviation is organising the above seminar in association with Bond Aviation Solutions (www.bondaviationsolutions.com).

The seminar contents will include:
• The European pilot recruitment market
• Writing a good pilots CV
• Ability and personality testing - a guide
• Succeed at that important interview
• “The Next Step”

The seminar will be delivered, in English, by Mr Roger Ware, Astraeus Senior First Officer, Training First Officer and Pilot/Airline Recruitment Specialist.

Bond Aviation Solutions and Egnatia Aviation staff will be available to answer any questions. The seminar will be free.

Together, Egnatia Aviation and Bond Aviation Solutions offer a complete airline pilot package. Bond Aviation Solutions offer the following:
• Type Rating Training (B737NG, EFIS, B757, B767, A320 Family)
• Jet Orientation Training (Integrated into TR and Stand alone)
• MCC (Integrated into all available TR Courses)
• Line Training packages with TR Training (B737, B757)
• Differences Training
• SIM Check Preparation and SIM Experiences
• Airline Instructor Training (TRI Core, TRI, TRE, TRI (A) Upgrade)

The seminar is provisionally planned for January 2007 at Egnatia Aviation premises in Kavala– details to follow soon. In order to finalise the location and place of the seminar please let me know if you are interested to attend (PM or email).



I hope to see you all there!

This seminar has just been arranged and the above are the words of one of EGNATIA'S directors. Very good news for us here and as it is free i felt like posting about it as other people may want to come and attend.

GREETINGS TO EVERYONE HERE FROM GREECE!

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My Diary

Hi chaps,

After careful advice from many 'pruners' such as scroggs, pilot pete etc i have decided to go, the modular route.

I will be starting on the 0-fatpl course at Egnatia early next year and i will be keeping a day to day diary for anyone that is interested. My chosen medium is in the form of a blog that can be located at the following address:

http://dreams-of-a-pilot.********.com/

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me primarily on the blog or alternatively on pprune. Wow i am so excited and raring to go.

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