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Old 26th Jun 2006, 19:00
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Question Aviation Medical

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Does anyone know of a good registered aviation doctor that can give me my Class II (Private) medical?

Also, how much does this usualy cost?
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Old 26th Jun 2006, 19:31
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Go to the CAA website and check the AME's in you area. I would expect you will pay around £100-£150
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 07:45
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Originally Posted by coodem
Go to the CAA website and check the AME's in you area. I would expect you will pay around £100-£150

Great, thanks!
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Medical for ground school theory?

-Can any of the JAA theory exams be done without a JAA medical?

-Is it true that the initial medical must be done in the country where you hope to have your JAA license issued?

I am thinking of doing a JAA correspondence course based in Australia (with WA aviation college) but would I have to first obtain a JAA medical in Europe?

(I already hold a class 1 medical in Australia and the US)
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Old 30th Sep 2006, 09:07
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I believe the only qualificaation requirement to sit an exam for a JAA ATPL is an ICAO PPL. The class 1 is due before commercial flight training / test. MIght be wise though to get one first as jaa medicals may have different tolerances to elsewhere.
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Medical Quickie!

Dear All

I have a JAA Class 1 (initial issue 23/08/2001) that expired 23/08/2002 I have been flying with this as it is valid for a class 2 for 5 years. On the 23/08/2006 it expired. Now ready to get airborne again with my PPL but possibly considering Commercial flying commencing in a couple of years am I:

a) Better just getting a Class 2 done lasting 2 years (now in my 30's)
or
b) Getting a Class 1 re-issued that lasts for 1 year or as a class 2 for 2 years.

If I go for the class 1 I will need a new electrocardiogram and a new audiogram, if I just go for the class 2 I will need audiogram only.

Any thoughts? Any idea how much I should be paying?

Thanks for your help on this one
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Old 4th Oct 2006, 14:09
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Get the class 2. Why pay extra for examinations you don't need now? You can always get a class 1 next time if you're at the stage where one is needed.

I'm due a class 1 next week with everything (extended eye exam, audio and ECG). Don't expect much change of £200 at least. Last year I paid under £100. The AME sets the fee and so they vary greatly. Shop around!
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You can always get a class 1 next time
Really? What if you fail it!!

The initial class 1 medical has more stringent criteria than a renewal and, as none of us is getting any younger, I would recommend sooner, rather than later, if you have real commercial aspirations.

A lapsed Class 1 becomes a class 2 and so long as you get the Class 1 medical renewed with a class 2 time scale, you won't have to undergo the initial examination at Gatwick!

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Cheers Chaps!

I have just spoken to an AME. He reckons that once you have had the initial class 1 then you never need it again regardless of timescales of the class 2. He suggested I go for a class 2 (£75) and then when needed get a class 1 renewal.

Does that make sense? I cannot fnd anything in LASORS or on the CAA website (maybe I am not trying hard enough!!)

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Not sure I understand you Whirly...

Our colleague states he/she has held a class 1 previously, therefore any future class 1 will be a renewal or revalidation. This can be done at an appropriate AME. There is no clause about having to undergo an initial medical again.

My original advice is effectively what the AME recommended too.

LASORS mainly covers licencing. The CAA website has details on renewing/ revalidating medicals here: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/SRG_MED...piry_Dates.pdf but I couldn't find anything on the class 1 to class 2 reversion bits.

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Originally Posted by mustflywillfly
Cheers Chaps!

I have just spoken to an AME. He reckons that once you have had the initial class 1 then you never need it again regardless of timescales of the class 2. He suggested I go for a class 2 (£75) and then when needed get a class 1 renewal.

Does that make sense? I cannot fnd anything in LASORS or on the CAA website (maybe I am not trying hard enough!!)

MFWF
Sorry but the AME is wrong. There IS a limit to the class 1 initial medical, as has been said I'm pretty sure it is 5 years. If you let your Class 1 lapse for more then 5 years then you are required to return to the CAA and do another initial medical. Your best option would be to call the CAA medical department and speak to one of their advisors, they will be able to give you the correct information.
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Medical

i am planning 2 tke a medical test b4 i strt my uni course with pilot training. could you please temme wht the test contains. i mean is there anything that i can do to improve my medical status. 4 eg. do they look at your cardio fitness or how much i can lift etc. any help on this subject will be of great help.

thank you
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Firstly, there is no limit to the number of characters you may use on a post here, so please refrain from using text-speak. It is inconsiderate of those you hope will help you.

Secondly, the medical is not some childish strength test or fitness ordeal, it is a relatively simple check that you can see and hear adequately, and you're not imminently at risk of dying of some cardio-vascular disease.

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class 1 to 2 - true or not?

Originally Posted by Whirlygig
A lapsed Class 1 becomes a class 2 and so long as you get the Class 1 medical renewed with a class 2 time scale ...
Originally Posted by EGBKFLYER

LASORS mainly covers licencing. The CAA website has details on renewing/ revalidating medicals here: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/SRG_MED...piry_Dates.pdf but I couldn't find anything on the class 1 to class 2 reversion bits.
This is really strange and frustrating. I've heard a lof of different stories ... Today I had my class 1 renewal and I asked the Doc himself about class 1 to 2 reversion. He said that after class 1 expires it's not automaticaly converted to class 2. Therefore solo PPL flying with expired JAA class 1 is illegal. (?) I really don't know what to believe. Can anybody point a paragraph in official jar-fcl docs about this issue? I can't find anything. Thanx.
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 19:51
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The class 1 medical DOES become a class 2 on expiry. I have spoken to the CAA Medical department about it and they have confirmed this. You must renew the medical within 5 years of the class 1 expiring, or you have to do another initial medical.
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Old 29th Oct 2006, 15:23
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Booking CAA Medical

Hi,


I start my JAA ATPL course on the 20th of next month. I am currently in Dubai and am trying to organize my initial CAA medical so I can start the ground school. I currently hold a Class 1 Australian medical.

I have called the medical centre at Gatwick several times and I always get the same result which is to leave a recorded msg due to all operators being busy. I have left several msgs but I am guessing they re not getting back to me due to being overseas.

Is there any other way of booking this initial medical ? any ideas ?!

thanks
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dxbpilot,

I posted an identical thread in the Medical forum about a week ago - in exactly the same boat as you.

After many exasperating phone calls from Canada, and getting the same response as you are, I elected a family member in the UK to do the calling for me. A call was placed at bang on 0900 BST and by amazing luck they answered and said medical was booked on my behalf. Apparently if you leave a message, they will call you back wherever you are in the world (hmmm...with time change and the organisation required to do all this, I am personally doubtful)

Your best bet is to try and get someone in the UK to leave a message and get the CAA to call them back during UK working hours. Nice and simple for them. Otherwise, its pot luck really - leave a message, keep that mobile phone on all hours and hope they call. Crap system really isn't in when a medical costs anything between £260-£500!
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great

Thanks alot mate , i think i will contact the school and see if they can organize it for me .


Cheers
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Cost is £302.

If you have a sight prescription i.e. for specs or lenses, you will need to have a 'script that is less than 12 months old, else another sight test with your optician is required beforehand. In either case, the script will then need faxing to the clinic. If you do go to the optician, download and print off the Class 1 visual acuity regs from the CAA website (safety>medical).
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Booking the medical

i managed it by phoning the main number as usual and then instead of dialling the extension for medical appointments, dial a different extension, you then apologise for pressing the wrong ext number, they swiftly transfer you (with priority) to the medical appts desk. A little crafty i know, but hey you have a) got your appointment and b) saved the poor soul dialling the line you are now occupying a few millipence in interest by delaying them paying whatever ridiculous amount over to the CAA's finest! (WITHOUT WHOM, I MUST STRESS WE WOULD ALL BE SCREWED HER HUM) ;-)

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