CAA/JAA Aviation Medical & related issues
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good post. I've got my class 1 initial medical on monday, however I'm doing mine in Germany at Cologne, I assume it will be along the same lines.
I hope I have the same result too!
I hope I have the same result too!
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Class 1 Medical Madrid
Hi Guys,
I just completed my Class 1 Medical in Madrid I started at 08:30 and finished at 14:30.
It cost €330 and wow what an experience, they checked everything and I mean everything all the usual as in Gatwick plus personality, aptitude, etc. I did not know what to expect but very suprised how detailed it was.
I'm off to start an integrated course in Aeromadrid this October !
can't wait !!
Cliste
I just completed my Class 1 Medical in Madrid I started at 08:30 and finished at 14:30.
It cost €330 and wow what an experience, they checked everything and I mean everything all the usual as in Gatwick plus personality, aptitude, etc. I did not know what to expect but very suprised how detailed it was.
I'm off to start an integrated course in Aeromadrid this October !
can't wait !!
Cliste
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€330!
That works out at around £220.
Doing the exact same thing in the UK would cost £422!
Does anyone know if there would be any disadvantages in doing the medical in Spain (Or another JAA state) and then doing the re-validation in UK to convert the medical to the UK?
Cheers,
HaM
That works out at around £220.
Doing the exact same thing in the UK would cost £422!
Does anyone know if there would be any disadvantages in doing the medical in Spain (Or another JAA state) and then doing the re-validation in UK to convert the medical to the UK?
Cheers,
HaM
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At my initial Class 1, I sat in the waiting area next to a really nice young guy, who told me all about how his life’s ambition was to be an airline pilot. His only worry was that his vision might be a bit marginal.
Sure enough, he failed on his eyesight and left the building with commiserations, a class 2 medical, and a £400 hole in his wallet.
Do yourself a big favour; print the class 1 eyesight requirements off the CAA website, take them to an optician and get a £10 eye test. You will then have a pretty good idea whether your eyesight is up to scratch – if there is any doubt, I believe you can discuss your prescription with the CAA’s medical section before applying for the medical. It’s got to be better than forking out hundreds of pounds and crossing your fingers.
Sure enough, he failed on his eyesight and left the building with commiserations, a class 2 medical, and a £400 hole in his wallet.
Do yourself a big favour; print the class 1 eyesight requirements off the CAA website, take them to an optician and get a £10 eye test. You will then have a pretty good idea whether your eyesight is up to scratch – if there is any doubt, I believe you can discuss your prescription with the CAA’s medical section before applying for the medical. It’s got to be better than forking out hundreds of pounds and crossing your fingers.
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sounds ok for the boys !
but what about us girls - anyone had there class 1? i hopefully going once once the old a level results are known so prob be sept ish when i go for mine !
obviously i dont have any 'plums' as its was described lol - so is there much difference for us girls ?(although i guess i have to admit to being a 'plum' inspector myself when i get the chance ! lol
but what about us girls - anyone had there class 1? i hopefully going once once the old a level results are known so prob be sept ish when i go for mine !
obviously i dont have any 'plums' as its was described lol - so is there much difference for us girls ?(although i guess i have to admit to being a 'plum' inspector myself when i get the chance ! lol
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exactly the same apart from the plum exam obviously! you will have a breast examiniation instead - I think they usually use a female doctor but mine was with a male doctor and female chaperone.
nothing to worry about! good luck
exactly the same apart from the plum exam obviously! you will have a breast examiniation instead - I think they usually use a female doctor but mine was with a male doctor and female chaperone.
nothing to worry about! good luck
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Never a nice thing.
I had a Government Medical last year and the Doctor turned out to be a mate of mine......very odd feeling !
Not too sure who was the most uncomfortable ! ! !
I'm sure the CAA would give you a girlie Doctor if you asked them far enough in advance wouldnt they ?
I had a Government Medical last year and the Doctor turned out to be a mate of mine......very odd feeling !
Not too sure who was the most uncomfortable ! ! !
I'm sure the CAA would give you a girlie Doctor if you asked them far enough in advance wouldnt they ?
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Sounds just like the class 2 initial, except with the brainwave bit, and chest X ray......
Still can't help but crack up laughing when the doc kneeds my liver / kidneys / organs....as I explained to him, I'm hellofa ticklish (still, you don't fail for being ticklish
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(Does feel very un-natural having a bloke feel your plums though, give me a girly doc for that any day, though Blood pressure could be an issue then
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Still can't help but crack up laughing when the doc kneeds my liver / kidneys / organs....as I explained to him, I'm hellofa ticklish (still, you don't fail for being ticklish
)(Does feel very un-natural having a bloke feel your plums though, give me a girly doc for that any day, though Blood pressure could be an issue then
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Definitely no internal for a girl's Class 1!
They did ask me if I was comfortable with the male doctor doing the breast exam, but there wasn't any alternative so I had to go with it! I am sure they could organise a female doctor to see you if you ask in advance.
PM me if you have any more queries!
They did ask me if I was comfortable with the male doctor doing the breast exam, but there wasn't any alternative so I had to go with it! I am sure they could organise a female doctor to see you if you ask in advance.
PM me if you have any more queries!
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I was going to go for a Class 1 medical but then I was told that the scales dont go up that high !
I suppose I could get a print out from a Ministry of Transport weight bridge !!!!
I suppose I could get a print out from a Ministry of Transport weight bridge !!!!
What's the purpose of the bollock check? (Apart from charitable testicular cancer screening)
Beags, it's good to see they'll find out if you sneak off to have your legs lengthened between medicals - that height check. Sneaky...
Beags, it's good to see they'll find out if you sneak off to have your legs lengthened between medicals - that height check. Sneaky...
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Just an update on my previous post in this thread. I passed my german class1! Nice to know that my dream can start moving forward, althought I now have to transfer this medical to the UK. does anyone have any info on this? The CAA website is abit vague! Do I need to have a licence? Who has to fill in the form (AMC? AME?
) Any advice welcome!
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) Any advice welcome!Blinkz
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the risk of your medical being taken away anytime!
Recently I have practically inundated the Medical Forum with my posts!
I have had some difficulties in obtaining the Class 1 with the CAA then with the IAA. Now it appears that I am getting somewhere.
I am told by the IAA that my right eye best corrected is 6/9.
Now if I fulfill my dream to becomming a pilot, any minute deterioration from 6/9 will result in my medical being taken away and me grounded from earning a living.
This is a risk to take and I am very worried since I am still to spend thousands of pounds in training.
Anyone else in my boat?
I have had some difficulties in obtaining the Class 1 with the CAA then with the IAA. Now it appears that I am getting somewhere.
I am told by the IAA that my right eye best corrected is 6/9.
Now if I fulfill my dream to becomming a pilot, any minute deterioration from 6/9 will result in my medical being taken away and me grounded from earning a living.
This is a risk to take and I am very worried since I am still to spend thousands of pounds in training.
Anyone else in my boat?
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i have 20/20.soi am not i the same boat
is there any insurance company who could insure you. i know pilots who are covered in case of license lost. it is expensive,but in your case you should check this"problem".
is there any insurance company who could insure you. i know pilots who are covered in case of license lost. it is expensive,but in your case you should check this"problem".
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pilot16,
As your probably aware from my high post count in the medical forum I have had trouble getting a class 1, althought for a different reason (colour vision) I'm pretty sure that once I get it sorted colourvision shouldn't be a problem again as once you have passed thats it. Unless the airlines hold it in a poor light, hopefully they will accept a class 1.
I know what you mean about worrying about losing your medical. You just have to decide if you want to take the risk. My vision has to be corrected, but it falls well within the limts, I've got 6/4 with both eyes and 6/5 seperatly with -1.75 and -2.25. It could get worse, I don't know. It just one of the many things that *could* happen.
Anything could happen in your career, and we can't just go second guessing all the bad things. If we did then we would never leave the house (and we'd see the house as a very dangerous place!) Your the only one who can tell yourself what flying means to you. Personally I would do anything for it, just because I love it.
Do you have a stable presciption for your glasses? How old are you? Talk to your optician and I'm sure they will help you as much as you can.
Good luck!
As your probably aware from my high post count in the medical forum I have had trouble getting a class 1, althought for a different reason (colour vision) I'm pretty sure that once I get it sorted colourvision shouldn't be a problem again as once you have passed thats it. Unless the airlines hold it in a poor light, hopefully they will accept a class 1.
I know what you mean about worrying about losing your medical. You just have to decide if you want to take the risk. My vision has to be corrected, but it falls well within the limts, I've got 6/4 with both eyes and 6/5 seperatly with -1.75 and -2.25. It could get worse, I don't know. It just one of the many things that *could* happen.
Anything could happen in your career, and we can't just go second guessing all the bad things. If we did then we would never leave the house (and we'd see the house as a very dangerous place!) Your the only one who can tell yourself what flying means to you. Personally I would do anything for it, just because I love it.
Do you have a stable presciption for your glasses? How old are you? Talk to your optician and I'm sure they will help you as much as you can.
Good luck!
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Without getting into the specifics of your case which I have no authority to comment upon, there clearly are many specified minimums to achieve the required standards.
As dissapointing as it might be, they are set not only to stop you wasting time and money, but also to protect the potential employers who would also stand to lose their investment. Of course you cannot guarantee that any fit individual will still be so tommorow, but there has to be a degree of probability and common sense applied. The limits set would normally allow for the usual wear and tear, in other words the deterioration that the onset of advancing age would normally result in. The limits are therefore either age dependant or applied at a sensible mean level to cover a range of ages.
There are many posts on PPRuNe that discuss eyesight and other issues in depth and it is well reported that the authority often takes a pragmatic and helpful approach to these issues. You should however be aware that not everybody will satisfy the standards and that is just a fact of life however unfortunate that may be.
Good luck.
As dissapointing as it might be, they are set not only to stop you wasting time and money, but also to protect the potential employers who would also stand to lose their investment. Of course you cannot guarantee that any fit individual will still be so tommorow, but there has to be a degree of probability and common sense applied. The limits set would normally allow for the usual wear and tear, in other words the deterioration that the onset of advancing age would normally result in. The limits are therefore either age dependant or applied at a sensible mean level to cover a range of ages.
There are many posts on PPRuNe that discuss eyesight and other issues in depth and it is well reported that the authority often takes a pragmatic and helpful approach to these issues. You should however be aware that not everybody will satisfy the standards and that is just a fact of life however unfortunate that may be.
Good luck.
