Debenair Aviation Florida
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Debenair Florida. Any one knows them?
Hello there,
I am thinking of going to Debenair in Florida for some serious hour building in september. Has anybody been there or know how is the operation run? Any coments/advice kindly apreciated.
Regrds
Calypso
I am thinking of going to Debenair in Florida for some serious hour building in september. Has anybody been there or know how is the operation run? Any coments/advice kindly apreciated.
Regrds
Calypso
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I know where they are because I have done some training close to them....
They are very close to Cape Canaveral and they are in controlled airspace (eastcoast of Florida)at TITUSVILLE airport.
I have landed there once and it looked nice .
I don't know about the FTO at all !!!
If you go there the flying it's good fun for hours building !!! If you go let me know as I am planning to go there in few months to do some hours too.
I think you are looking to the 100hours package for $39 hour....
Let me know and have fun if you go!!
They are very close to Cape Canaveral and they are in controlled airspace (eastcoast of Florida)at TITUSVILLE airport.
I have landed there once and it looked nice .
I don't know about the FTO at all !!!
If you go there the flying it's good fun for hours building !!! If you go let me know as I am planning to go there in few months to do some hours too.
I think you are looking to the 100hours package for $39 hour....
Let me know and have fun if you go!!
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Yep.....Ive been there !
The operation is run by a husband and wife team (Bill and Annette)from the North of England so you can exspect a friendly welcome and a 'spades a spade' way of doing business.
The flying very good value for money with block hours bookings cheaper than anywhere else I've ever found.
What brings the prices up is traveling costs. The company houses are a good few miles away and a car / lift is required.
Then you have the cost of the houses which are nice and quite cheap...but its another cost to add on.
Headphones...$5 a day...not much but how long are you going for ?
Finally theres the 100LL. If your not going to fill up at Space Coast then your only going to get back approx 60-70% of your fuel money!
Apart from that ( and there are pros and cons with ALL schools that Ive had dealing with ) its not a bad set up.
Make sure you book your name down for an aircraft everyday....and maybe a few days in advance too otherwise you could be out of luck !
Get there nice an early and do your checks. These aircraft are good but their also old and need careful checking. Most things can be fixed quite quickly as the tyre kickers live in the hangar next door and if not you should be able to pick up another a/c.
My advice would be to get a nice cheap fly-drive deal maybe with Airtours into Sanford. Stay at the company houses and cook yourself or with the others in the house(good kitchens...Bloomin great Walmart down the road).
Visit a Deli on the way in and buy a monster sub ($5 or make your own) with a couple of cold drinks. This will do for breakfast and dinner and save on exspensive airports food if you stop somewhere.There is no canteen at Space coast on your side of the airport !
Fly as much 'local' stuff as you can (only to keep costs down) and try and blag the extended rage C152 if you can (40 gallon tanks I seem to remember)so that you can spread your wings further afield.
Space coast airport is great with massive runways and mostly helpful A.T.C. They should have moved into a brand new Tower by now so the aircon should work better too!
Titusville town is a bit zzzzzzzzzz. Ok your there to fly but everyone needs some R&R too sometimes. The Red Lion 'English' Pub is quite a giggle and only a short walk away from some of the houses. They serve 'Bitter' which is nice when your fed up with Bud !
Have fun....and dont forget to visit places like Key West (exspensive) and the likes while your out there. NASA is only 5 miles down the road and ask for a fly-by of the shuttle landing area...maybe you will get to see a lauch while your out there too ! ! !
The bottom line....Would I go again ???
YES !
Cheers
The operation is run by a husband and wife team (Bill and Annette)from the North of England so you can exspect a friendly welcome and a 'spades a spade' way of doing business.
The flying very good value for money with block hours bookings cheaper than anywhere else I've ever found.
What brings the prices up is traveling costs. The company houses are a good few miles away and a car / lift is required.
Then you have the cost of the houses which are nice and quite cheap...but its another cost to add on.
Headphones...$5 a day...not much but how long are you going for ?
Finally theres the 100LL. If your not going to fill up at Space Coast then your only going to get back approx 60-70% of your fuel money!
Apart from that ( and there are pros and cons with ALL schools that Ive had dealing with ) its not a bad set up.
Make sure you book your name down for an aircraft everyday....and maybe a few days in advance too otherwise you could be out of luck !
Get there nice an early and do your checks. These aircraft are good but their also old and need careful checking. Most things can be fixed quite quickly as the tyre kickers live in the hangar next door and if not you should be able to pick up another a/c.
My advice would be to get a nice cheap fly-drive deal maybe with Airtours into Sanford. Stay at the company houses and cook yourself or with the others in the house(good kitchens...Bloomin great Walmart down the road).
Visit a Deli on the way in and buy a monster sub ($5 or make your own) with a couple of cold drinks. This will do for breakfast and dinner and save on exspensive airports food if you stop somewhere.There is no canteen at Space coast on your side of the airport !
Fly as much 'local' stuff as you can (only to keep costs down) and try and blag the extended rage C152 if you can (40 gallon tanks I seem to remember)so that you can spread your wings further afield.
Space coast airport is great with massive runways and mostly helpful A.T.C. They should have moved into a brand new Tower by now so the aircon should work better too!
Titusville town is a bit zzzzzzzzzz. Ok your there to fly but everyone needs some R&R too sometimes. The Red Lion 'English' Pub is quite a giggle and only a short walk away from some of the houses. They serve 'Bitter' which is nice when your fed up with Bud !
Have fun....and dont forget to visit places like Key West (exspensive) and the likes while your out there. NASA is only 5 miles down the road and ask for a fly-by of the shuttle landing area...maybe you will get to see a lauch while your out there too ! ! !
The bottom line....Would I go again ???
YES !
Cheers
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Calypso,
I might just see you out there! I made arrangements with them a few weeks back and so far they have been extremely helpful with giving me as much info as possible. and from the previous post it sounds as though its gonna be a great time.
When planning these things you can never be sure of what you are going to get, so its nice to hear good reports.
Have Fun
I might just see you out there! I made arrangements with them a few weeks back and so far they have been extremely helpful with giving me as much info as possible. and from the previous post it sounds as though its gonna be a great time.
When planning these things you can never be sure of what you are going to get, so its nice to hear good reports.
Have Fun
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I've been there too in 1999. They then run alongside Discovery aviation but I think they've moved now across the field. Bill and Annette - really nice people and as said above accomodation is excellent. Busy airfield but it is good to learn in the heavy traffic. A brillant spot to fly from plenty of places to go to, try a trip to Cedar Key on the West coast-a woman who runs the taxi into town anwsers the radio, its quite entertaining.
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Thankyou for all the replies.
It looks like it is a nice place and it is certainly cheap. I have spoken to Annette a couple of times and she seems helpful. I have booked the IFR extended range 152 for 100hrs.
I will post about the place on my return.
Calypso
It looks like it is a nice place and it is certainly cheap. I have spoken to Annette a couple of times and she seems helpful. I have booked the IFR extended range 152 for 100hrs.
I will post about the place on my return.
Calypso
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Debenair Titusville Florida
I am planning on visiting Debenair for the month of December to build 100 hrs for 39 dollars per hour wet.
Is anyone else planning on doing the same and if so perhaps you can drop me a line ?
Dont think I will find better value than that.
Is anyone else planning on doing the same and if so perhaps you can drop me a line ?
Dont think I will find better value than that.
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Don't no much about Denbenair but Titusville aka Space Coast Regional is a top airfield.
Excellent place to watch a space shuttle launch from, plus there is an old fighter musuem on the field.But I loved the Outer Marker Cafe - by far the best airfield cafe in Florida - top burgers & shakes !!!
Excellent place to watch a space shuttle launch from, plus there is an old fighter musuem on the field.But I loved the Outer Marker Cafe - by far the best airfield cafe in Florida - top burgers & shakes !!!
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I agree the cafe is great. The shuttle lifted off at 0615hrs when I was there. Rattled the house like an earthquake I didnt know what was happening. Still half asleep after getting in at 0330hrs after 6 hours night nav round Florida.
Floppy
I agree the cafe is great. The shuttle lifted off at 0615hrs when I was there. Rattled the house like an earthquake I didnt know what was happening. Still half asleep after getting in at 0330hrs after 6 hours night nav round Florida.
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I was there last month and did 200hrs. It is a good place and I recomend it. My target was 200hrs in one month and this I managed to achieve despite Sep 11. I was lucky in that I have an IR (all VFR was closed for over 2 weeks) but it was flying flat out every day. The school is well run and they try to adapt to your needs. The aircraft are not new but they do get maintained and offer unbeatable vaue.
Florida ATC is superb and a breath of fresh air. They are very acomodating and very rarely get ruffled despite getting really busy. I only wish that where I fly normally they where half as professional or aware that they are there to help. On my first day over there I requested politely to do a simulated IFR approach to a busy airport, the response: 'we are here to help sir' Wow!
I also did an extended X-country trip (to Vegas) and that great fun. You do not get 100% of your fuel cost back but you can research a cheap fuel route through airnav.com. Paying for part of the fuel will also sharpen your efficient flying skills and get you to study all those altitude wind charts.... I also kept costs down by camping in small airfields. Permission is usually granted. On Sep 18th I did however run into an 8 car FBI team one remarcable night in a small strip in Alabama, but that is a different story.
Enjoy.
Calypso
Florida ATC is superb and a breath of fresh air. They are very acomodating and very rarely get ruffled despite getting really busy. I only wish that where I fly normally they where half as professional or aware that they are there to help. On my first day over there I requested politely to do a simulated IFR approach to a busy airport, the response: 'we are here to help sir' Wow!
I also did an extended X-country trip (to Vegas) and that great fun. You do not get 100% of your fuel cost back but you can research a cheap fuel route through airnav.com. Paying for part of the fuel will also sharpen your efficient flying skills and get you to study all those altitude wind charts.... I also kept costs down by camping in small airfields. Permission is usually granted. On Sep 18th I did however run into an 8 car FBI team one remarcable night in a small strip in Alabama, but that is a different story.
Enjoy.
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Well I was out there two months ago and couldn't fault the place, when I went flying at the weekends.
I went there on recommendation. I know of 5 other fellow UK Instructors who go back to the place to hour build or tour. The planes may not be brand new, but they are well mainted and safe. If you have those things in mind then only price and weather determines choice after that in the US. Florida is excellent.
Beware, I certainly wouldn't take advice based on two years ago, especially if the advice is not specific - things change in 6 months in aviation as we all know.
Debenair also offers refunds.
I'm nothing to do with Debenair, but I always believe in recomending a good deal. I'm sure plenty will respond in support.
I went there on recommendation. I know of 5 other fellow UK Instructors who go back to the place to hour build or tour. The planes may not be brand new, but they are well mainted and safe. If you have those things in mind then only price and weather determines choice after that in the US. Florida is excellent.
Beware, I certainly wouldn't take advice based on two years ago, especially if the advice is not specific - things change in 6 months in aviation as we all know.
Debenair also offers refunds.
I'm nothing to do with Debenair, but I always believe in recomending a good deal. I'm sure plenty will respond in support.
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Experiences please with DeBenair Aviation
I am considering this place for some hour building early on in the New Year.
I would appreciate peoples experiences, good or bad, of the place.
Cheers.
I would appreciate peoples experiences, good or bad, of the place.
Cheers.