Pilot Training College, Waterford, Ireland
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Right, you've all put me off PTC - and I thank you for that 
Especially FL179's comments. Nice to find out which schools are and aren't worth going to before I even open my wallet.
Especially FL179's comments. Nice to find out which schools are and aren't worth going to before I even open my wallet.
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The pilot training college Ireland
Does any body have any knowledge of this college. I have only just found out about here and don't know that much about there. Any help would be grately appreciated.
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Beware of PTC cost analysis
I would just like to share my limited dealing with PTC Waterford. I enquired about the cost of training for the CPL ME/IR. After receiving the quote I told them that I would keep them in mind, but a different school in the UK had been significantly less expensive.. so I was tending to favour the other school (Aeros Gloucester). Someone from PTC then got back to me with a 'Cost Analysis' comparing the two schools.
At first glance it seemed that I had previously made a mistake with my sums.. this analysis stated that PTC were £500 cheaper.
After checking it over I found that the currency conversion between GBP and Euros had been done using a completely inaccurate rate! I used the accuarate rate at the time and found that PTC were actually £2500 MORE expensive. Thats a £3000 difference!!!
Now I dont know whether this was a genuine mistake, or something more sinister, but in either case it isnt very professional. Im not saying not to go to this school, just take extra care!
At first glance it seemed that I had previously made a mistake with my sums.. this analysis stated that PTC were £500 cheaper.
After checking it over I found that the currency conversion between GBP and Euros had been done using a completely inaccurate rate! I used the accuarate rate at the time and found that PTC were actually £2500 MORE expensive. Thats a £3000 difference!!!
Now I dont know whether this was a genuine mistake, or something more sinister, but in either case it isnt very professional. Im not saying not to go to this school, just take extra care!
Hi all
I wouldn't trust a "guarantee" from any Irish FTO.Cold, hard experience tells me that they're not worth the jax paper they're written on.As for a guaranteed interview, well, that's still no nearer the coveted seat.You have to pass the sim check, that's what really counts.
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TDD
I wouldn't trust a "guarantee" from any Irish FTO.Cold, hard experience tells me that they're not worth the jax paper they're written on.As for a guaranteed interview, well, that's still no nearer the coveted seat.You have to pass the sim check, that's what really counts.
regards
TDD
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Hi all.
Had problems with PTC like FL197. I was doing a multi/ir course with them and was flying two days a week with them to fit in with my work. I was getting my flying slots one week in advance.One week i got a phone call from George Edgeworth telling me i had slots on the TUES+WEDS the following week. Grand. Then the following Mon i got a phone call from a member of staff. Went somthing like this:
PTC" your flying in ten mins, are you going to bother to turn up. Your instructor has been sitting here for the last hour waiting for you"
ME "i was told it was tuse+ weds by george. Can I speak to him?"
PTC" He is not here. Your down for Mon, Tues,and Weds. Can you make it today?"
ME" No. Ill be down Tomorrow"
I arrived the next day to find out to my anger that my account had been charged 240euro for their mix up .I challanged George face to face and was lied to point blank. I also found that they had changed my instructor for the rest of my time there. That was just one of many times they got money off me for avoidable billing items. Shame on them.
My advice is that if you can go elsewhere..GO
Had problems with PTC like FL197. I was doing a multi/ir course with them and was flying two days a week with them to fit in with my work. I was getting my flying slots one week in advance.One week i got a phone call from George Edgeworth telling me i had slots on the TUES+WEDS the following week. Grand. Then the following Mon i got a phone call from a member of staff. Went somthing like this:
PTC" your flying in ten mins, are you going to bother to turn up. Your instructor has been sitting here for the last hour waiting for you"
ME "i was told it was tuse+ weds by george. Can I speak to him?"
PTC" He is not here. Your down for Mon, Tues,and Weds. Can you make it today?"
ME" No. Ill be down Tomorrow"
I arrived the next day to find out to my anger that my account had been charged 240euro for their mix up
.I challanged George face to face and was lied to point blank. I also found that they had changed my instructor for the rest of my time there. That was just one of many times they got money off me for avoidable billing items. Shame on them.My advice is that if you can go elsewhere..GO
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On the contrary to what some say here, I never had a problem with PTC. Slots were seldom cancelled and if they were I always got plenty of notice. Also the staff I dealt with were very helpfull in fitting me in to suit my schedule. I would say my experience was that those who maintained full/parttime employment completed thier training in almost the same time as those that were fulltime students. Thats probalbly due more to the Irish weather that anything else and a bit of luck aswell.
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When did you train at PTC fullrich. If it was a coupla months ago, then you will find the guy who was above board and kept the operation in check and removed or reduced a lot of the problems now talked about has since left his "management" position at Waterford.. I feel that his leaving may be a big reason we are seeing these problems at PTC now. Pity as it had the makings of a great school once upon a time...
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Ptc Ireland
hi there just wondering if any of ye have tried training with the pilot training college of ireland based in waterford, just looking to find out a bit more and see if anyone has completed their ATPL there and what the general thought were of the place
I've decided that i'm going to do my ATPL this year of never do it so im real eager to find the right place to do it was thinking of this place cause they seem good plus its local for me also if you pass an assment course with them then AIB one of the main banks in ireland will provide you with a loan for the full amount (€75000) of the course, which u dont pay back until course is over and you have found a job Terms and Conditions apply to this of course!!
any feedback would be greatly appreciated thanks lads.
I've decided that i'm going to do my ATPL this year of never do it so im real eager to find the right place to do it was thinking of this place cause they seem good plus its local for me also if you pass an assment course with them then AIB one of the main banks in ireland will provide you with a loan for the full amount (€75000) of the course, which u dont pay back until course is over and you have found a job Terms and Conditions apply to this of course!!
any feedback would be greatly appreciated thanks lads.
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Im in the same boat. Im thinking of starting in Waterford in September. I went to their open day and they seem to know what they were talking about. I've been to other schools where i knew more than the instructor 
. Anyway ive heard nothing but good reviews about the school. I have yet to find someone who was completely disatiafied.
. Anyway ive heard nothing but good reviews about the school. I have yet to find someone who was completely disatiafied.
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Pilot Training College, Ireland.
The following is a direct quote from these boy's website:
98% Graduate Airline Employment Within two months
PTC graduates work for airlines worldwide. We have a 98% placement record within 2 months of graduation.
Garuanteed Interviews with Major Airline Recruiters
Suitably qualified students of PTC are garuanteed an interview with an airline following graduation.
They claim that all people getting an MCC from them (albeit through Parc Aviation) get a garuanteed interview. This would be with ryan air I presume?
Also, 98% of graduates get an airline job within 2 months? Surely that can't be true? What kind of figure bending has gone on here then?
At first glance all this looks like a load of bollocks, but if it is true, take me there! Anyone else able to expand further?
98% Graduate Airline Employment Within two months
PTC graduates work for airlines worldwide. We have a 98% placement record within 2 months of graduation.
Garuanteed Interviews with Major Airline Recruiters
Suitably qualified students of PTC are garuanteed an interview with an airline following graduation.
They claim that all people getting an MCC from them (albeit through Parc Aviation) get a garuanteed interview. This would be with ryan air I presume?
Also, 98% of graduates get an airline job within 2 months? Surely that can't be true? What kind of figure bending has gone on here then?
At first glance all this looks like a load of bollocks, but if it is true, take me there! Anyone else able to expand further?
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The MCC in PARC seems to lead ( not always but from talking to friends who have been or are going) to a sim check with the RYANS! ......seems that if you do a good course and they like what they see, your name may be put forward......? No guarantees there is no such thing! Have visited PTC and decided not to go due to ME/IR training costs, but they would appear to be well organised and professional in their approach, but I have no first hand experience and don't know anyone personally who has attended.