CAA Fees & Charges

[The96er]

I sometimes wonder how they can charge such an outrageous amount per exam, especially when you see the poor state of some of the annexes which you are given to work with !!!!

[Charlie Zulu]

To be fair to the CAA, the various annexes for this months exams were in pretty good shape. They seem to have got their act together this month... (Orlando exam centre but that probably doesn't make a different as they're sent over from Gatwick).

[ramshorn]

IR Test fees

Hi all
Just read a post which advises someone that if they were to do JAA IR then they would have to do 2 tests.
I know that the IR skills test will be charged at a whopping £640 by the CAA.
Any ideas how much i will be charged for the 170a, or is that generally included in the course price??

Thanks

[Dude~]

No longer officially called the 170A I believe, but you still have to prove you are ready to test before flying with a CAA examiner. Some places may include it in the course price. Others may not. Check first and find out exactly what the score is. Some places may even charge their own test fee for the '170A'

The place I went to included both the 170A, and the aircraft hire for the test, so the only thing I had to pay was the basic course price, and the CAA test fee, which was a very good deal. Be very clear about what the school charges extra for as it could easily ammount to an extra £1000.

[LFS]

Unfortunately the CAA have raised the IR and CPL test fees to £691 as of 1st January 2006.

It is still called the 170a but a flight test is only required for the IR. Most schools would include in course prices, if they don't it should only be around the £150 - £200 mark.

[too_sleepy]

CPL Application - fees

Hi

I thought I had this sorted but I'd really like some feedback on what I should pay the CAA.
I'm applying for my CPL with multi-ir
The sceme of charges lists:
210 - For the grant of a Commercial Pilot licence (Aeroplane), including an initial type rating and instrument rating where these are included in the application valid for 5 years

Does this cover my CPL, IR rating and Multi rating. I'm assuming type rating could be the multi rating?

Also, do I list my MCC on the application form?

Thanks

[CAT3C AUTOLAND]

If you submit all your paper work for the CPL, IR and MEP they should issue everything for the quoted price, or that is what they did for me, unless it has changed. You MEP is not a type rating, it is a class rating.

With regard to you MCC, the CAA do not issue it, it is something that you get from the provider who you trained with, the certificate should be placed in your licence.

Hope this helps.

[buggingout]

Yeah, just had mine back: ME CPL/IR & Radiotelephony issued....all for the bargain price of 210 quid

in fairness, only took them a week from send to receive.

[Hour Builder]

GET IT IN QUICK BEFORE IT GOES UP IN JANUARY

[BlueRobin]

Are they?

The scheme of charges published last year are for 2006/07. If they are late doing their budget, they had better get a move on!

[Hour Builder]

Well I was just guessing. You are quite right the scheme of charges reads

PERSONNEL LICENSING CHARGES SCHEME, 2006/07
(OFFICIAL RECORD SERIES 5 DATED 2 November 2005)
This summary of the above Scheme is in respect of PROFESSIONAL PILOT'S LICENSING
The Charges, which are PAYABLE ON APPLICATION, are EFFECTIVE FROM 1 January 2006

Who's to say they won't increase that and write at the bottom

The Charges, which are PAYABLE ON APPLICATION, are EFFECTIVE FROM 1 January 2007

HB

[Linda Mollison]

I think you will find the prices do not go up until 1 April 2007 when it is proposed that the licence issue fee will go up to £216.

It is also proposed that the flight test fee will go up to £712!

See www.caa.co.uk/charges

Linda Mollison

[expedite08]

Caa Price Rise Warning!!!!

Its all in the title!!

Cant seem to get the link on here, but have a look on thier site, under scheme of charges.

Looks like were all gonna get mugged in broad daylight even more than we do already!!!!

[wbryce]

I can only find the scheme of charges thats been in existance since dec 05, http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...68&groupid=658
Is this the link you were looking at?

[BlueRobin]

wrt the pro training side, theory exams up £62 from £60, CAA staff flight tests up £712 from £698.

Two and three percent rises, not the CAA's usual 6-7% customary inflation

[Superpilot]

You guys are so mean! With the price of coffee and tea rising daily, they had to do something!

[2close]

CAA Charges

This is not a whinge but a genuine enquiry for information or rather explanation.

I would like to think that someone from the CAA, i.e. Graham Forbes or even Mike Bell, would take the time to answer but I doubt it somehow.

So my question is how does the CAA justify the fees that they charge for CPL and IR flight tests.

I understand that the charges in the UK are higher than any other country - is this correct?

If the test fee included the hire cost of the aircraft I could understand it but to charge nigh on £ 700 to have someone sitting alongside an examinee for even two hours seems somewhat high, regardless of the professional status of the examiner. After all, the money doesn't go to the examiner....or does it?

Given that the CAA has a monopoly on this issue, which itself seems quite against the spirit of fair trading, I am surprised they have got away with these charges for so long.

Have the charges ever been formally contested and if so what was the outcome?

2close

[Turbine King]

The standard response is the CAA is not publicly funded and has to get its money from us

How about the ATPL exam fees 62 quid from April (thats £868!)
how does that add up then?

My CATS online course is only £1000!

In other countries the same JAA exams are charged at under 10 euro each with computer exam and results on same day

why can't i study here and do exams in greece let's say

[High Wing Drifter]

Here's one to think about. ATPL exam fees, £55 a paper, 130+ candidates each paper each month, 14 papers..... er .... £55 x 130 x 14 = .......gosh, that's over £100,000 a month or £1.2 million pounds a year. You'd think they could get exam confirmations out in time.

I doubt each sitting student will be taking 14 exams at each sitting. I would guess about 5 on average. I met quite a few who were just taking one or two. Some of the other schools do 4/5 per sitting. Still a lot of money though!

To be fair, it should be a user pays system. To publicly fund the CAA would be wrong. The question is, within aviation who subsidises who? It seems to me that the license issue costs are understandable as each license is probably a couple of hours work for a couple of people plus the IT and facilities infrastructure needed to support those people. The exams though, I don't understand £55+ per exam at all. That is just money for old rope as is the 5 year license renewal and a few other things!

[BlueRobin]

The CAA is only the only governmental agency that has to make a return from its "user base" plus 6-7%. There is I imagne probably some formula on this basis that there is a budget set for X amount and each department contributes its fair share depending on that department's running costs (inc rent, utilities etc) and workload.

It's probably something your MP's researcher could ask or look up given sufficient time.