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Magnum23 27th May 2026 21:16

Correct PIC Name in EASA Pilot Logbook
 
Hi,

I want to start a new EASA Pilot Logbook and I have read that, you can write as PIC Name SELF instead of your real surname when you acted as PIC.
Did anybody did this the same way or got Problems with that, I have heard that people who applied later for CPL, got the licence rejected from the authority because of that ?
But I think for me it‘s just easier to fill out the Logbook and the pages are looking cleaner.
I try now to build hours for ATPL, parallel to my 9/5 Job, so want to do the paperwork Logbook as good as I can.

Thank you for the answers

Maoraigh1 27th May 2026 22:14

When I went solo in 1964 I was told to put "Self" as P1. Same when I revalidated after 21 years when I couldn't afford to fly. Still doing it, 2026. But still only a PPL. UK.

rudestuff 28th May 2026 04:57

I think 'self' is pretty much standard.

Genghis the Engineer 28th May 2026 06:25

I have been 'Self" in all my logbooks - military and civil, UK, EASA and FAA since I started flying in 1990. It is totally standard and universally acceptable.

G

BoeingBoy 28th May 2026 07:52

Well I've been writing 'Self' since 1970 and never had an issue. :)

treadigraph 28th May 2026 20:53

My dad flew on a Kenyan PPL and all his PIC entries are "self".

EXDAC 28th May 2026 21:40

Regional aviation differences never stop surprising me.

When I was keeping paper log books I had a column for entering PIC hours. If the PIC column was empty I was not PIC and entered the hours as instruction received. The person who was PIC signed that log entry.

Why would I ever need to say that I, self, or me was the person logging PIC? My logs are for my flight time not for someone else's.

There were never enough columns in a paper log for me to record and total what I wanted and that's one of the reasons I abandoned paper logs in favor of computer records.


Prop swinger 28th May 2026 22:17

The op mentions aiming to achieve professional pilot qualifications, in which case their logbook will have to stand up to scrutiny from the regulator.

The EASA rule is:

FCL.050 Recording of flight time
The pilot shall keep a reliable record of the details of all flights flown in a form and manner established by the competent authority.
so the only people whose opinion really matters is the LBA. The mostly UK based responses here may not apply.

EXDAC 28th May 2026 22:28

"The pilot shall keep a reliable record of the details of all flights flown in a form and manner established by the competent authority."

Not a useful reference without a definition of, and associated reference to, "form and manner established".

rudestuff 29th May 2026 04:20


Originally Posted by Prop swinger (Post 12093313)
The EASA rule is:so the only people whose opinion really matters is the LBA. The mostly UK based responses here may not apply.

A logbook goes with you for life, possibly (probably) through multiple competent authorities, and none of them will care... Writing 'Self', your own name or leaving it blank and filling in the PIC column - they're all acceptable.

Jhieminga 29th May 2026 08:56


AMC1 FCL.050 Recording of flight time
GENERAL
(a) The record of the flights flown should contain at least the following information:
(1) personal details: name(s) and address of the pilot;
(2) for each flight:
(i) name(s) of PIC;
Taking this very literally, you should record the name of the PIC even if that's yourself. Because of this, I have been putting my own surname in the PIC column for the past 20+ years. I know that SELF is universally accepted, so I guess that's seen as an AMOC. ;)

eckhard 29th May 2026 09:50

I too have always entered “Self” in the PIC column, without any problems over the last 54 years. UK, EASA, FAA never raised any issues.

I did fly with a copilot called David Self. I made sure to include his initial !


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