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rkgpilot 17th September 2018 18:26

I’m confused - Grob 109 series aircraft and Dimonas/Super Dimonas have varying max weights, up to 930kg that I know of. Are they technically in a different classification from that described above?

I’m in process of training on a Grob 109b so as to add TMG to my EASA PPL and SLMG to my U.K. PPL - I’d like to understand the significance of all this. If I subsequently apply for NPPL with SSEA and SLMG ( which is what the original question was about) would I not be able to fly one of these particular aircraft on that licence because they are over 750kg?

BossEyed 17th September 2018 21:03

No, you are fine.

(Super) Dimonas and G109Bs are TMGs for EASA (and SLMG for UK PPLs) as per the table on page 1 of this thread..

Genghis the Engineer 18th September 2018 16:50


Originally Posted by rkgpilot (Post 10251312)
I’m confused - Grob 109 series aircraft and Dimonas/Super Dimonas have varying max weights, up to 930kg that I know of. Are they technically in a different classification from that described above?

I’m in process of training on a Grob 109b so as to add TMG to my EASA PPL and SLMG to my U.K. PPL - I’d like to understand the significance of all this. If I subsequently apply for NPPL with SSEA and SLMG ( which is what the original question was about) would I not be able to fly one of these particular aircraft on that licence because they are over 750kg?

I was on the team that certified the Vigilant T1 for the RAF Air Cadets, and we certified it above 850kg by using military rather than civil regulations. That may be the G109 you're thinking of which we approved at 908kg.

Super Dimonas are good up to 770kg I think, so within the 850kg.

It's always possible to go above 850kg, but you'll need to take the aeroplane into part 23.

And, at risk of sounding like a stuck record DO NOT CONFUSE AIRWORTHINESS WITH PILOT LICENCING REGULATIONS - THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

G

MaxR 19th September 2018 07:03


Originally Posted by Jan Olieslagers (Post 10250271)
@MaxR: nothing keeps you from editing your original message. I honestly admit the "self-abuse" sounded like sarcasm...

Jan - if you knew me, you'd know that that's even more likely than you imagined but I can assure you that in this case it was entirely the work of my phone. I would have edited my original post but that would have made Maoraigh's post meaningless. I have spent some happy times flying SLMGs and hope to again in the near future so I have nothing against them at all. None of which means that I won't now use the term self-abuse motorised gliders now that my phone's thought of it :E.


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