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Genghis the Engineer 20th June 2018 18:40

"Amateur in a shed" ?

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Johnm 20th June 2018 20:24


Originally Posted by Genghis the Engineer (Post 10177635)
"Amateur in a shed" ?

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homebuilders and their supply chains

BoeingBoy 21st June 2018 07:26

Well to return to the subject of Brexit and EASA someone seems to have decided we need a negotiator to deal with it. This from another forums page:

Head of Airspace Strategy/Head of Aviation EU Exit Negotiations

Phororhacos 22nd June 2018 17:47


Prior knowledge of airspace and the aviation sector is an advantage but not necessary.
Says it all really :-(

Sam Rutherford 23rd June 2018 10:40

I've just started my application process...

abgd 23rd June 2018 15:17

Maybe some enterprising person should buy the rights for the E-Go and move production to Broughton. Lots of cheap but highly skilled labour likely to be available soon. :(

Jan Olieslagers 23rd June 2018 16:41

A good idea, @abgd, but for some uncouth reason enterprising people seem to become rare in the UK - a surprising number of them popping up in Brussels and especially in its outskirts - a surprising part of them filing requests for citizenship in BE or other continental countries.

Steve6443 23rd June 2018 17:20


Originally Posted by Jan Olieslagers (Post 10180123)
A good idea, @abgd, but for some uncouth reason enterprising people seem to become rare in the UK - a surprising number of them popping up in Brussels and especially in its outskirts - a surprising part of them filing requests for citizenship in BE or other continental countries.

Jan: you're mixing up "hangers-on of a certain gravy train" with enterprising people. The former are rarely the latter and the latter have no need or desire to be anywhere near the former.....

Jan Olieslagers 23rd June 2018 19:01

Point taken, @Steve, you might indeed well have a point. Difference between short-term view of opportunities vs. long term view of stable business, if I understand you all right? Only I am afraid today's world offers little promise of long-term stability, so day-to-day pragmatism seems to be the way to go. Sad, yes.

Genghis the Engineer 23rd June 2018 22:01


Originally Posted by Johnm (Post 10177715)


homebuilders and their supply chains


That is neither P&M nor, in large part, TLAC. Both are national authority approved manufacturers; the former has been in business in various guises for over a quarter century, the latter around a decade.

Of course, the most successful light aircraft manufacturing operation in the world at the moment is arguably Vans, who are almost exclusively supplying homebuilders. So, I wouldn't disparage that model either.

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abgd 24th June 2018 05:36


for some uncouth reason enterprising people seem to become rare in the UK
My neighbour has just announced a new job on the continent. His existing job in academia became insecure as a result of a drop in student numbers following the referendum so he's resigning before he is pushed. He will take his family including my son's best friend with him.
Kudos, it can't be easy to move to a lower paying job in a new country when you're 50.

a.alexeev.p 24th June 2018 18:21

that is all so very sad and uncertainty is the worst :(

Sam Rutherford 31st October 2018 11:14

So, I applied for this:

Head of Airspace Strategy/Head of Aviation EU Exit Negotiations

I didn't get the job - didn't even get to interview. :)

Anyone know who was chosen and what they're planning to do between now and the Christmas holidays (which in work efficiency terms, the holidays start on about the 1st December), and then from about 7 January until the end of March?

I would imagine the next four weeks will be creating their team, and then what's left of January is finalising strategy.

So, that leaves February (unfortunately only 28 days as not a leap year) to, erm, negotiate.

Then, most of March to implement whatever has been, erm, negotiated...

TelsBoy 2nd November 2018 09:57

Hard lines Sam. Better luck next time...

I'd imagine it'll be some professional Civil Servant/Politico who knew the right folk. Probably no aviation background, or maybe the most tenuous of links.

All a total shambles.

Sam Rutherford 5th November 2018 09:06

I wasn't interested in the job, but was interested in the process (and background story).

All gone very quiet, I don't know who they chose (if anyone), and/or what they're going to do.

In this timeframe, it's going to have to be a "we'll change nothing now, but implement future changes during the transition period'.

I think we're going to hear 'transition period' a lot over the next few months!

Sam Rutherford 5th November 2018 14:30

And then, another question (to which I don't think anyone has an answer).

Currently, an N reg arriving in the EU needs to pay EU VAT. This is a generalisation, but you get my drift.

Will this apply to G reg 'arriving in the EU' after March 29th? How many G reg owners still have the original purchase invoice, with VAT marked as paid?

Can opened, discuss...

150commuter 8th November 2018 21:08

ISTR that being the case even when we were in the EEC but before it had become the EU. There were several cases of French customs (possibly others but France is where most G aircraft going abroad went) asking for the documentation and if it wasn't forthcoming demanding the VAT. I think these were mostly sorted out but there was a lot of bureaucracy involved. I know with more certainty about what happened with UK film and TV crews going abroad. Until about the early 1990s, so before the single market kicked in, they had to have carnets with absolutely every piece of equipment listed and these were quite often checked by French customs. If they'd actually lost something like a film magazine they'd not only have to replace it but would probably have to pay the VAT on it as well on the grounds that they might have sold it there. The main problem was that they were often held up for ages at the ports while all their equipment was checked against the carnet.

Sam Rutherford 9th November 2018 06:03

We're dealing with film equipment carnets constantly around the world, and yes, they're a pain. Checking of the serial numbers down to individual batteries - can, and often does, take hours! Not just at each border, but the preparation/organisation in advance ensuring that the carnet information is correct (cross-checked with the gear that is going). That's before something is added (or also removed) just before departure!

The idea that this will carry across to UK European shoots is a horror I hadn't previously considered.

I'll add it to the list of unexpected/unintended consequences.

Sam Rutherford 9th November 2018 10:45

It's going to be a long list...

Or it'll be business as usual, #Fudgit

Mike Flynn 9th November 2018 13:32


Originally Posted by Sam Rutherford (Post 10306282)
It's going to be a long list...

Or it'll be business as usual, #Fudgit

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Of course it will be Sam.

How will the UK/EU cope with those of us with dual Irish and British nationality and passports.

We have a foot in both camps 👍

Deltasierra010 9th November 2018 20:03

Brexit
 
If the UK does leave the EU customs union cross border movement is going to be a pain in the ar**, visas, car documents, aircraft documents, import duty, VAT and delays. Changing to a new regulatory system for airworthiness is going to mean a lot of time and cost - again, we have got used to a free and easy travel and shipping, forget all that

soay 10th November 2018 15:18

The indignity and inconvenience for travelling that we have to suffer as a result of terrorism is bad enough, but now Brexiters want to compound it, regardless of cost. It's a boondoggle!

Sam Rutherford 2nd February 2019 08:31

Found the guy who got the job!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-delafield-85507b7b/

TelsBoy 4th February 2019 10:52

What did I say? Professional Civil Servant with no aviation experience whatsoever. And we wonder why things are such a shambles in this country.

Ebbie 2003 4th February 2019 17:54

I have never been too impressed with job hoppers.

It usually takes six months to hire someone, have them underperform and then get rid of them.

Not saying that is the case with Mr. Delafield.

Seems rather young too - does he even speak "aviation" at, 27/28, with what seems to be no experience of it I wonder.

My assumption here is that he will be heading a group of technical experts and his job will be to do the diplomatic thing and write reports; not matter who got the job we would all no doubt have concerns and likely the process and the outcome will please no one in the short to medium term.


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