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Seanmul89 28th May 2017 15:34


Originally Posted by B2N2 (Post 9785156)
Incorrect.
You need an M1 visa for PPL training.

Well that's why I ask, that was a quote from the US.gov since it is an accelerated course, but also been issued a certificate it does require a visa. But I'll clear it up again.

B2N2 28th May 2017 23:59


Originally Posted by Seanmul89 (Post 9785384)
Well that's why I ask, that was a quote from the US.gov since it is an accelerated course, but also been issued a certificate it does require a visa. But I'll clear it up again.

The part that they ( and you) quote does not pertain to flight training but to non vocational courses like language training.
Flight training towards the issuance of a license requires an M1 visa and only 14 CFR Part 141 schools can issue the I-20 for your visa application.

Seanmul89 29th May 2017 12:10


Originally Posted by B2N2 (Post 9785757)
The part that they ( and you) quote does not pertain to flight training but to non vocational courses like language training.
Flight training towards the issuance of a license requires an M1 visa and only 14 CFR Part 141 schools can issue the I-20 for your visa application.

I understand that's why I said been issued a cert, in my case an FAA ppl(all going well) requires the visa to obtain it.
I copied and paste the quote this didn't come from my own knowledge. Thanks :)

Seanmul89 1st June 2017 22:14

Ppl in US
 
Hey all, again I'm looking into going to the US, I am in talks with a school in San Diego and Florida, the one in San Diego is recommending I finish my ppl through the EASA programme 2-4 weeks they quote depending where I'm at, but I'm been told by others if I am going for commercial to do FAA cert.

Im going to the US to finish it no matter, I was hoping to have my ppl here complete by end of summer but it won't happen with work too, if I take 3 weeks leave to finish it here I'm not guarantee the weather at least my 3-4 weeks in the states I'll get alot more done .

Martin_123 2nd June 2017 14:53

hi Seanmul89, mind me asking what school is prioritizing integrated over modulars? PM if you like, I'm due to start my CPL/ME/IR training soon, wouldn't like to be messed around like that.

Seanmul89 2nd June 2017 21:54


Originally Posted by Martin_123 (Post 9790321)
hi Seanmul89, mind me asking what school is prioritizing integrated over modulars? PM if you like, I'm due to start my CPL/ME/IR training soon, wouldn't like to be messed around like that.

Hi Martin, no it's only the ppl I'm finishing, but I want to finish in the US. It's modular I'm doing, my point is the school in the US is recommending I finish through EASA but I wanted info on doing the FAA ppl, some guys here just said to go FAA route if I am to go Commercial level.
I don't mind either I'm just wondering what's best? FAA or EASA?

PilotNLDK 3rd June 2017 10:39

I checked up on doing the same modulair route in the US.
As Im more focusing on California(because the weather is way more stable over there than in Florida), I got in touch with AAA in San Diego.
They offer both FAA and EASA PPL programs and you can use both of them to start with their CPL/ATPL course.
Still, they recommended me to do their EASA program, because they said it is better if you want to fly in Europe later on.

rudestuff 3rd June 2017 18:19

I did an EASA (actually JAA) PPL in the US, and I regretted it. I wish I'd done FAA.

It makes sense to finish in the States because of both price and weather. If you intend to get a CPL, then the PPL is only a stepping stone, so it doesn't matter which one you do: EASA/FAA/TC/SACAA Being the obvious ones. If you're doing it in the States, it makes sense to go FAA because (a) all schools teach it, not many teach EASA and they charge a premium. (b) there is only one written test, and the Prep course and exam will be about £100. Much cheaper than taking 9 exams. (c) You will be issued a temp certificate on the spot for free. No sending logbooks to Gatwick, paying a fortune and waiting a month before you can fly.
I remember having to do my hour building solo whilst my FAA mates were taking every man and his dog up for rides.

Seanmul89 4th June 2017 00:58


Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 9791403)
I did an EASA (actually JAA) PPL in the US, and I regretted it. I wish I'd done FAA.

It makes sense to finish in the States because of both price and weather. If you intend to get a CPL, then the PPL is only a stepping stone, so it doesn't matter which one you do: EASA/FAA/TC/SACAA Being the obvious ones. If you're doing it in the States, it makes sense to go FAA because (a) all schools teach it, not many teach EASA and they charge a premium. (b) there is only one written test, and the Prep course and exam will be about £100. Much cheaper than taking 9 exams. (c) You will be issued a temp certificate on the spot for free. No sending logbooks to Gatwick, paying a fortune and waiting a month before you can fly.
I remember having to do my hour building solo whilst my FAA mates were taking every man and his dog up for rides.

When you say it like that it does make sense :) . I don't mind obtaining either, but I have my mind set on the FAA route. Say I get the cert, to hour build that would be my ideal trip to the states throughout the year while I study Atpl.
By the time I log hours here In Ireland with weather etc the same time I could take 10 days leave or 2 weeks and head to the US and build a good few hours, in them 2 weeks I be lucky to get decent time logged here at home.

I've been chatting with AAA also and they are pushing for me to do EASA while the school in Florida is having no problem with me coming over to do FAA cert.

I've been to Texas in November 16 and January this year and wished I had my cert for those times, so a trip abroad is no problem.
I've 20 hours logged, to finish in the US realistically if I put my head down and really thrive for it I should complete within 2-4 weeks all going well.
Thanks for the replies also :)

PilotNLDK 5th June 2017 17:10

Does it mean that you can not fly with FAA license in Europe, or can you still fly with N-registrations in Europe?

Seanmul89 6th June 2017 10:52


Originally Posted by PilotNLDK (Post 9793520)
Does it mean that you can not fly with FAA license in Europe, or can you still fly with N-registrations in Europe?

Not 100% sure, but I read somewhere with an FAA cert you can fly an N reg or EI reg plane, (in my case ireland) within our airspace, if leaving the airspace you would need permission from IAA and so on, that's probably were it will get messy.
But if this is right I'll be happy to do some hours just within Ireland and the US.

r10bbr 6th June 2017 17:56

Hi Sean honestly stay away or be very sceptical of AAA, they may promise you the world but it may end up different, i went there to finish my license but was unable to, i was promised very similar to you the time frame of finishing the license what resulted was paying more than what i was told and my trip extending then what i initially was told and a complete let down please message me privately if you want me to discuss the matter!!!


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