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ATCbabe 8th July 2002 17:59

White Shadow,

If only a few more vfr pilots were like you!!:p

That is all the details that I need to provide you with a FIS/RIS. You would be surprised at how long it can take me to drag all the required information out of some pilots!!:(

Almost as bad as the life story ones ;) ;)

niknak 8th July 2002 18:32

STAND UP - SPEAK UP - SHUT UP....... ;)

Chilli Monster 8th July 2002 18:43

VFR Flight Plans
 

If you file a vfr flight plan before departing then all units along the way get details through the AFTN system and this again reduces the details you have to pass.
A common misconception - VFR plans only go to the destination and the alternate. The computer that routes the plans doesn't know where to address them with regards to en-rte agencies (unless it was addressed to each one individually).

Notwithstanding this the actual practicalities of having the plan are non-existent. I for one am not going to make up a pile of strips for flights which may or may not call (no where to keep them ready anyway at summer traffic levels) but if this was to be done then there'd be no way I'd have the time to actually find the strip when the aircraft called if there were so many. Direct handovers or info when you call are the only practical solution at the moment.

CM

ATCbabe 8th July 2002 19:54

Chilli,

You are correct that unless stated on the flight plan the plan only goes to destination/alternate adm.
Sorry I should of mentioned that at the time of posting.

White Shadow 8th July 2002 22:06

Babe -
Roger
Thanks
'bye
WS

GoneWest 8th July 2002 22:18

White Shadow - whilst I agree entirely with what you say (though maybe not the way you say it)....if you are going to re-write the CAP413 into your own language does that include the dropping of the word altitude when operating on a QNH??


who I am; where I am; my height & QNH; my destination/route; what service I'd like.
If you're at a height you should be saying the QFE.

White Shadow 9th July 2002 11:16

GW -

Oops.

Thanks. Should indeed have written Altitude, on QNH.

I usually just say the numbers, on RT. -
eg "two thousand feet, on QNH one zero two one"

Seems enough? Tho' probably wouldn't pass an RT exam...

WS


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