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LTCTerry 25th October 2015 16:05

Gliding is a cheaper way to start
 
Perhaps the OP should look into gliding...

Under EASA rules he can solo at 14 and get a gliding license at 16. Many clubs have significant discounts for young members.

If he spends his 16th year as a genuine PIC, power add-on should be "relatively" simple, and he'll have the confidence with the examiner that only real PIC time can bring.

In my experience, big things in life should be broken down into achievable bits. If there are rewards along the way (like solo at 14 instead of waiting until 16) or taking Mum or Dad for a ride at 16 instead of 17, then so much the better. In the US Army there is a term "Plan of Action and Milestones." This addresses the question "where do you want to go, and how do you know you are progressing in the right way?"

Yes, I'm biased (SEP/MEP/IR PPL but instructor only for gliders), but I think the earlier he can achieve valuable milestones the better.

Terry

Maoraigh1 25th October 2015 21:33

But his nearest gliding club is another 40 miles away - and another bus change.

Monocock 25th October 2015 22:56

Liam

Your youthful enthusiasm is refreshing, and reminds me of myself when I was 14 (that's 28 years ago!!!).

Sod it, PM me, and I'll buy you a lesson*. None of my own kids seem interested in flying, so I might as well spoil someone who is!!

Keep the dream, and never ever give up on it.

* That's one hour in a SEP trainer, not a five hour IMC sortie in a Seneca, OK? :-)

littleboylime 26th October 2015 18:10

Thankyou JetBlu and mono so much I have private messaged you:)

Monocock 29th October 2015 19:56

Liam

Let us know how you get on. The wee Scottish lass on the phone sounded such a sweety, I'd be happy to pay another £165 to chat to her again!! :}

chillindan 29th October 2015 20:10

What a wonderfully refreshing thread! Well done to all who are helping someone so young to achieve his dreams.

Good luck Liam, keep up us all posted as to how you are doing!

littleboylime 30th October 2015 07:36

I will let you know how I'm getting on after my lesson on Sunday :),Liam

littleboylime 1st November 2015 18:12

Had my lesson today and learnt about the effects the ailerons elevators and rudder had on the plane in the tomahawk with half an hour in the ground school,thank you mono and JetBlu for the hours and deltav for the books,Liam

DeltaV 1st November 2015 20:39

Good for you. I wasn't sure you'd get aloft today for it was pretty breezy. Did see a Tomahawk go over the house but it probably wasn't you as students mostly operate over the Black Isle.

Mach Jump 2nd November 2015 01:54


What a wonderfully refreshing thread! Well done to all who are helping someone so young to achieve his dreams.

Good luck Liam, keep up us all posted as to how you are doing!
I just read this thread for the first time.

DeltaV, Ryanayre, Monocock, and Jetblu, Like Dan, I'm struck, not only by Liam's enthusiasm, and determination, but also your spontaneous generosity, towards a young man you don't even know.

As Dan says, it really is wonderfully refreshing to read something like this on here, amongst the usual cynicism, and the thought occurred to me that there must be thousands of pilots on here who feel the same sense of affinity with Liam.

Now, it would only take another 43 of them, and ......................... :cool:

Send me the details too, Liam. (But just post them here on the thread, ok, not in a PM);)


MJ:ok:

littleboylime 2nd November 2015 19:23

You are right Mach jump it's amazing how many people responded to my first post I hardly expected any reply but it's been the total opposite with lots of advice from experienced pilots and flying lessons from people who don't even know me but share the love for aviation and over 2500 views in 2 weeks! What details is it that you want? Thanks:),Liam

the_flying_cop 2nd November 2015 19:58

Liam, sadly I can't afford to pay for a lesson for you, but I would like to send you a Pooley's CRP1 flight computer.

If it will be of use to you, PM me an address to send it to.
(The flying school's address is fine)
Good Luck!

Mach Jump 2nd November 2015 23:37

Hi Liam.
Jetblu is exactly right. All we need Is the phone number of the Flying School, and the name of the nice lady to ask for. When are you 15?


At this rate you could end up with your ppl by March 2016
Liam's problem is that he will have to be very sparing with his flying for a while, so that he will be 16 when he is ready to go solo, and 17 when he is ready to apply for a Licence. :*


I'd be happy to pay another £165 to chat to her again!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, Monocock, but I believe your tongue was in your cheek when you wrote that?


MJ:ok:

littleboylime 3rd November 2015 06:29

Hi the clubs name is highland aviation and the phone number is 01667 460361.
,Liam

squidie 3rd November 2015 09:16

I think the best starter stuff is a CAA UK Chart 1:500,000, the study material for your exams (if you’re ready and need to do any exams yet) and a checklist for the aeroplane. You can study from all of these while you’re not flying too. I think most young students get headsets for gifts which is nice as it’s convenient to own all your own stuff. My parents bought me a HME 100 from Transair the first year I started training, think it was 2006 and I still fly with that headset to this day. Although don’t feel pressed to get one as most schools have spares to lend out.

Also be aware that you’re only 14 and you can’t do all the elements of the syllabus until you’re 16-17 where you can go solo at 16 and apply for your licence at 17, I would recommend applying this time to your exams too as you get an 18 month window to do them all (except the RT) from when you did the first one. This is just advice so you don’t have to re-site them all before you get your licence etc, at least this was the case when I was a student.

Mach Jump 4th November 2015 16:04

Hi Liam.

Spoke to the lovely lady at Highland today. She was full of praise for you, and assured me that an hour paid for will still be an hour, no matter how long it is before you actually fly it.

Do take up TFC's offer of a Pooleys CRP1 computer too. That saves you £50 straight off.:)


MJ:ok:

MaxR 4th November 2015 17:39

Liam

I notice someone above mentioned airquiz.com when you're doing your exams, it's a good place to practice. I don't have the money free for an hour's flying but I'm happy to pay the airquiz subscription for you. Let me know.

And, well done fella, I'm impressed.

littleboylime 4th November 2015 19:30

Hi Maxr thanks very much for the offer but I already have a subscibtion for 2 of the subjects (the principles of flight and aircraft general knowledge) according to the flying school their going to try to get me through my first exam in about a year so I just bought the first two in the Lapl syllabus because the subscriptions only last for a year I think

Ok thankyou Mach jump,

best wishes, Liam

ecosse 4th November 2015 21:24

Excellent Liam.

Keep up the enthusiasm :ok:

Where are you based if you dont mind me asking? there may be an airfield near you with a willing pilot(s) who could take you up for the odd hour here or there to gain some experience as a passenger.

I found flying with another pilot for the sheer fun helped me a lot!!

worth thinking about :ok:

I'm hoping to fly up north for a few days when the weather allows next. I may even visit you up there somewhere :).

I'm looking for a good flying adventure

Kenny

DeltaV 5th November 2015 06:01

ecosse, it's all in the thread.
Liam is training at Inverness but he lives a lot further north and Wick is the airfield nearest to his home. Actually, there is one closer but I doubt he, or you, would be allowed to use it.


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