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Scoobster 24th January 2015 15:32


Pretty amazing is when you've got an instrument qualification and you descend through a cloud layer for the first time solo to discover that you are exactly where you thought you were! (Moving maps are cheating here.)
Now that takes skill and ace navigation to ground features (amongst other things)

One day.. i will post that experience too!

See if i can rope someone into a RHS IMC experience flight prior to instructor.

Scoobs

thing 24th January 2015 15:35

I'll second Wombat there. The other part of IMC flying that never fails to delight me is climbing up on a filthy day and bursting out of the stratus into a brilliant blue sky and blindingly white cloudscape beneath you. It never ceases to make me go 'Wow'. It makes you feel extra privileged to be a pilot on those days.

150 Driver 24th January 2015 19:33

Based on the photos I doubt there is a non-instrument rated PPL around who hasn't done what you did without a concern, I know I did. Looks like a no question VFR flight to me

That said, endorse doing the IRR at the earliest opportunity, I crammed mine in virtually as soon as the ink was dry on PPL-amazing what the pressure of the threat of having the IMC withdrawn in April made me afford.

Agree with thing about flying on a horrible day (non icing of course) and breaking through into brilliant sunshine above cloud, puts a real smile on the face thinking about the ground based people trudging around in greyness!

The one issue I pick up from your posting is the flying with another pilot and having some degree of responsibility . I hate having anyone else in the cockpit who has a licence, I think it can very quickly put you in the incident pit.

phiggsbroadband 24th January 2015 21:00

For those who may like a little higher, is it necessary to have a different type rating if using; a Turbo, Supplementary Oxygen, or Cabin Pressurisation ?


I realise there is not too much FL160 class G airspace in UK !

Mach Jump 24th January 2015 21:46


...is it necessary to have a different type rating if using; a Turbo, Supplementary Oxygen, or Cabin Pressurisation ?
Not a different Type Rating, but Turbo/Supercharging, and Pressurisation require 'Differences Training'.

MJ:ok:

Ps. There's actually quite a lot of 'G' Airspace at FL160 in the UK.

thing 24th January 2015 22:52


I hate having anyone else in the cockpit who has a licence
I'm the other way around. I don't mind taking pax at all but the one nagging thought at the back of my mind is that if I keel over unexpectedly (I'm at that age where it happens...) then it's not just me that is going to sing with the choir invisible. The pax I take are regular pax and I always let them handle the aircraft enough so that they might feel confident to at least have a bash at getting it down.

I never tell them that's why I'm letting them have a pole around though...:)

On the other hand I really enjoy having another pilot on board. I have a regular flying buddy, my leg out, his leg back etc and we have it nailed down exactly who is in charge when flying and what the non flying pilot is expected to do. We brief it as well so there is no mistake. We're both ex mil and certainly in his case he has over 11,000 hrs cross cockpit experience so it works well for us.


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