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weedman1990 11th August 2014 19:29

morse code help
 
Hi,

Could anybody help me with Morse Code? I have been trying to find a list which is layed out in such a manner such as:

Navaid Code

Lambourne (LAM) .-.. .- --

And so on.

If anybody has a link or something that would help me it would be great.

Thanks

Morris542 11th August 2014 20:02

Jepp IFR charts usually have the morse identifier next to the navaid. That's the only example I can think of close to the format that you are looking for.

Can I ask why/what for? A knee-board with a list of morse code is usually sufficient.

late-joiner 11th August 2014 20:33

Skydemon plogs have navaid plus morse code

Gertrude the Wombat 11th August 2014 21:18


Skydemon plogs have navaid plus morse code
As do my hand written plogs.

Mariner9 11th August 2014 22:08

There won't be that many to learn once NATS start the imminent VOR cull :sad:

g1000 11th August 2014 22:16

Already started up north.. Do you know what their intentions are? Are we all going to be trundling about following our moving maps with GPS when they are all gone..?

Mach Jump 11th August 2014 22:52


Already started up north..
Funny you should say that.

Ottringham has been off for ages now. Is that how they will do it? Take it out of service for extended 'maintainence' and then, if we seem to manage ok without it, we never get it back?


MJ:ok:

hegemon88 12th August 2014 09:29


Originally Posted by g1000
Are we all going to be trundling about following our moving maps with GPS when they are all gone..?

Perhaps? And then one day the US Taxpayer decides it's too expensive and let's shut the system down :E



/h88

Jan Olieslagers 12th August 2014 09:49

Which is a good reason to use a dual mode GPS/Glonass receiver.
Though I must admit I prefer depending on uncle Sam over depending on the Eastern bear.

gemma10 12th August 2014 11:05

Why not just learn it. You can probably get a random morse tutor from the RSGB, and set your own learning speed. Three sessions a day at 20 mins. each for a month, you will read at 15 wpm.

India Four Two 12th August 2014 12:31

I learned by writing out an upper-case alphabet with a fine pen and then superimposed the dots and dashes on suitable places on the strokes of each letter with a marker pen.

It wasn't my idea, but it worked remarkably well.

Raiz 12th August 2014 17:42

Yes I can send you one
 
Weedman


I have an excel file with most of the en route nav aids in the UK, as of about 5 years ago, in the format you want. However, I soon gave up and learnt morse code, as others have suggested.


If you PM me your email address, I'll send it to you.

Raiz

Tinstaafl 12th August 2014 21:49

If you decide to learn it, do it as an aural 'language' with its natural rhythm & inflection. For example, B is 'DAH di' di' dit', and not 'dash dot dot dot', L is 'di DAH di' dit' not 'dot dash dot dot' etc.


Make a voice recording, repeating each letter of the alphabet several times, then random letters, then in groups. Listen to it as you drive, catch the train or whatever.
----------
di DAH A
di DAH A
di DAH A

DAH di' di' dit B
DAH di' di' dit B
DAH di' di' dit B

dah di' DAH dit C
dah di' DAH dit C
dah di' DAH dit C

etc

Big Pistons Forever 12th August 2014 23:44

I would suggest that there are many,many,many more useful things to spend time studying, than Morse code......

gemma10 13th August 2014 07:37

BPF
 
You are probably correct, all I`m saying is that if you do know it, then its one piece of paper less in the cockpit to distract.

ChickenHouse 13th August 2014 07:53

I have a simple way and it requires no additional paper - I simply look at the chart as on the ICAO charts the morse code is always printed on ...

gemma10 13th August 2014 08:08

chichenhouse
 
You are missing the point. If the poster is scribbling down dahs and dits as he`s listening, he then has to look it up. Here endeth the second lesson.

jayteeto 13th August 2014 08:35

Why would you scribble down? Look, listen, confirm. No pen required

ITS WRITTEN ON THE CHARTS/PLATES, the second lesson wasn't very good

jayteeto 13th August 2014 08:50

Capacity and situational awareness are very important in aviation. People have a habit of reducing both by carrying out tasks that are nice but not essential. It is essential to identify a beacon before use IFR, if you are navigating VFR your plan should be good, the beacon is a backup. Learning Morse for idents is nice, but not necessary, why make every identity a mini-test??
Try...... Tune, Chart, Ident. It takes 2 seconds to look at the chart.
My military instructional career was almost exclusively spent trying to help student pilots to reduce cockpit workload and allow them to do the important thing:

Lookout and fly accurately

ChickenHouse 13th August 2014 09:18

I am suspicious where the original question came from?

If you have proper and sufficient charts on board, you already have all information you need, regardless of VFR or IFR. The morse codes you need are either on your paper charts, or in some cases such as SkyDemon a bit hidden in the electrical underground (SD shows them in the Pilot Log). Just in case you use for example no paper charts, but AirNavigationPro and download only the free openstreet maps, you won't qualify for the requirement to use proper and sufficient charting equipment, or?

Down to the question again. If you plan your route with Skydemon and then send the planning package, as part of it SD generates a CSV file, that contains all data - including morse codes of the navaids.


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