I have never had a problem with the intial trial flight with friends/family in the back.

I wouldn't advise taking them on any of the rest of the syllabus though. It would be quite boring for them.

I did once take someones grandad on some nav exercises but he used to be a tail gunner in lancasters and had done his training in the local area. He was happy looking at the hills and it was good experence for the student to have a few circuits at close to max weight in a C172.

Well here and ready will see how it goes!!!

Update by the way....
 

C'mon then, ah'm oan the edge ae ma chair here!

Howdjgitoan well?

Well you would nt have heard my dulcet tones as I finished my shift at 1300 :cool:

Flight went fantastic!!! considering its the first time, ever flying something other than a flex wing:ok:

Managed to taxi, take off, fly straight and level, do some nice turns without help from the instructor,or without loosing altitude, Not by any means perfect I'm sure, but thought i done not too bad.

All my microlight training certainly helped,i noticed this when i found myself monitoring my speed, hight , climb and descent, temps and pressures etc.

We just flew some big circuits, as the weather wasn't to good elsewhere, we met with some frozen water here and there. made some turns to avoid it, then time to fly back!!

The landing was very.... mum!!! rough!!! i managed it with very little help from the instructor, he took care off the throttle, i was far to busy to do that too!!!

55 minutes later The PA38 is still in one piece though and next time I'm sure i can handle the landing a bit better.

Too sum it up both school and instructor were very professional, he was easy to talk too, the aircraft was very good, though next time i will give the 152 a shot.

:cool:

Was just wondering how you were thinking of taking your wife and daughter up with you in a P38 / C152 ;-)

You got to fly a P38???? :ok:


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I was going to take them up in the 172, though as they decided not to come with me, we took the pa38 instead. simples:ok:

dohhh!!! pa38 :ugh:

I have flown a p38, though it was made out of balsa wood its up in my loft somewhere :)

Relay need to think before posting.

Ecosse,

Glad to hear you went with Leading Edge, they're a good bunch of lads. Who did you fly with? How did you like the tomahawk? I've only flown it a few times myself and it can be quite unforgiving. You really have to fly that thing to the ground to get it down so i wouldn't be too worried about a rough landing.

Hopefully see you round the club and cafe soon.

Josh was the instructor and very good, though think he is going to be part time soon,:{

The tomahawk felt very good to me, i didn't think it was unforgiving,maybe due to the fact that ive flown a flex wing microlight before, and in some rough weather too :eek:

Def has to be flown right down to the last second, just like my old peggy q.

Stick with the tommy it has loads of room in it.

And you won't have any problems at all flying any of the other common training aircraft.

Its designed to be a training aircraft and by the request of instructors it designed not to have all the nastys dampened out.

Its a bit like marmite though some people hate them and others love them.

After 700 plus instructing in them I think they are a cracking aircraft to learn in and teach in.

I will def give the 152 a go though and go from there:ok:

Didnt have any issues flying the tommy, though i dont have anything to compare other than a microlight:)

On the Border Air website, they are now offering 45 hour package including exams and books for £7500. Seems like a very good deal!

What did you say the number for that place was?

Never ever pay up front for flight training...

But if you look at the deal, you'd see that they offer two schemes - one with a one off up front payment of £7500 or two equal instalments of £3500, the second due after 20 hours of flight.

And as we all know, there are two rules you should never ignore when learning to fly:

The first rule of learning to fly is never to pay anything up front, the second rule of learning to fly is never to pay anything up front.......

That's pretty odd. So if those figures are right, it's like they are discouraging you from paying up front for a 45hr block. I believe Border Air are a pretty solid outfit and own all their own a/c. Leading Edge do too (well ACS Aviation anyway) but for some reason the majority of their fleet are for sale. Not sure why.

TriBeCa,

I'm a member of ACS and the a/c have never been for sale. Can you confirm where you got your info from?

Marcus,

'ere we go:

http://www.acsaviation.com/index.php/aircraft-sales

I have just looked at this link and it seems that the acs aviation website is down. The above link is where I saw the aircraft for sale anyway