Pilot has now been named.

Of note that that is not the name of the registered owner on G-INFO.

G

Also of note is the CAA seem happy to state to the media that, as far as they are concerned, it is de-registered. So G-INFO would seem fairly accurate!

beeb article here now says:
I feel for his family. So easy to be flippant but a life has been lost, and every life is precious.

With the greatest respect to his family and acknowledging a life has been lost let's not overlook how it happened, or indeed the apparent disregard the pilot had for the law and safety of others!

Taking it at face value I find it difficult to get all sentimental.

BB

Presumably the CAA would not know if this pilot had a non-UK licence.
NS

I'm led to believe that the chap had purchased the Microlight on ebay and enquired about lessons however the cost put him off. I've heard quite a bit more but I'll leave it at that for the moment and let the investigation run its course.

UA

It wouldn't matter, because you cannot fly a UK microlight on a foreign licence.

Aye you can.

You just need any JAR license with a SEP Class rating.

Just like I can fly one on my UK JAR ATPL SEP class rating with zero training if I was stupid enough to try.

To quote someone on here:

Yep so anyone from any JAR country with a JAR license not a national one can come to the UK and fly G reg microlights on there JAR SEP class rating.

You just can't presume you can do it the other way round though. And for that matter they may not be permited to do the same thing at home.

I see what you mean. Very strange indeed.

The issue of permissions to fly microlights, for other licence holders, has always been rather odd.

The issue should be simple - they're different, but not that different. So you need training, or you are probably going to break it, and possibly yourself. The amount of training will depend upon the pilot and the aeroplane.

But depending upon whether you have an ICAO licence, a UK licence, a JAR licence, or an NPPL - all of which you might be quite legally flying, say, a PA28 with - the rules change about what training and testing you need to fly a microlight.

Which is daft. It really should be the same for everybody. Which is to say MANDATORY differences training. The only debating point really is then whether it should be just signed off by an instructor, or requires an examiner.

G

Your not really needing to test the full skill set so a sign off solo by an instructor should be fine just like a tailwheel differences in my opinion.

That is my opinion as well.

But my strongest opinion is that everybody should have to meet the same requirements, rather than jumping around depending upon what form of "heavy metal" licence you happen to hold.

G

andHang on. What about ANO Article 62 which states:
Surely that allows non-JAR PPLs to fly G-reg microlights? Where does it say that the "deemed valid" provision doesn't extend to microlights?
NS

Any ICAO licence with something equivalent to SEP should do. I've come across people with FAA PPL(SEP) licences flying microlights, so far as I could tell legally.

But in my opinion differences training should be mandatory for everybody. Either when going to microlights, or when switching control systems between 3-axis, flexwing, and/or PPC.

In the meantime, any pilot who is not an idiot should get differences training, whether legally required or not.

G

In France you cannot fly a microlight on a French or foreign PPL. So, the UK CAA could not deem a French PPL valid for microlights.




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The CAA can deem valid anything it likes on a G reg and its airspace. It got nothing to do with the French CAA.

It couldn't let a french licensed pilot fly a F reg, in UK airspace or a G reg in French airspace.

As I said they might not be allowed to do the same thing at home.

MJ
I disagree. The French PPL does not authorise the holder to fly a microlight, so the CAA can hardly override that. It would be different if the Contracting State did not specifically exclude microlights from PPL privileges.

In the event of an incident, the foreign licence would need to be verified with the issuing state and the microlight exclusion would come to light.