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RTN11 1st December 2011 19:48

Hectopascals
 
So, the Hectopascal is upon us.

Does anyone else find this change in pressure units strange and unnecessary? If nothing else, it's a longer word and doesn't flow quite so well over the radio.

BackPacker 1st December 2011 19:49

Not to mention the conversion charts you need to go from HPa to mbar. Another piece of paper to clutter the cockpit.

Gomrath 1st December 2011 19:52

Inches are so much easier.... but hey we never use the term anyway.

Jan Olieslagers 1st December 2011 19:52

QNH one zero two zero

what could be terser? what's the fuss?

RTN11 1st December 2011 19:55

Generally when the pressure is below 1000, the ATC then finish by saying the unit.

In todays case

niner niner seven hectopascals

GeeWhizz 1st December 2011 19:58

I thought in the world of the met office, its always been hPa. The name changed when published for aviation/naval reporting purposes.

Edit: also the reason for ATC stating the unit when the pressure falls less than 1000 (one thousand hPa/mb), is due to the ambiguity between 997 and _9.97In Hg (29.97 inches if the first '2' is clipped or missed).

RTN11 1st December 2011 20:04

I guess Jan is used to flying round with high pressure.

M-ONGO 1st December 2011 20:09

Must be that famous Belgian high!


I guess Jan is used to flying round with high pressure.
:rolleyes:

BackPacker 1st December 2011 20:10


Inches are so much easier....
Obligatory joke:


United 643 descend to altitude 4,000 feet QNH 1029
Ah, could we get that in inches please United 643
Certainly, United 643 descend to altitude 48,000 inches, QNH Is still 1029

GeeWhizz 1st December 2011 20:28

Oh those Americans definitely like it in inches ;)

Dan Dare 2nd December 2011 19:45

Just waiting for them to bring in milliatmospheres - that would roll off the tongue nicely AND be a boost to the economy with all the new altimeters required. Or Torr (mmHg) would be a good compromise - the mercury would keep them happy on one side of the atlantic and mm keeps them happy on the other side and in the rest of the world.

Sad to see the old mb go.

pitofrost 2nd December 2011 19:56

Cranfield tower seemed to take great delight in saying hectopascals at every opportunity today. With just a tiny pause to make you wonder if they were going to say it this time "QFE niner niner eight...........hectopascals".

XLC 2nd December 2011 23:58

Here in northern Thailand they give the initial reading in hPa, but when asked they give you the reading in Hg as well as they have both data on their screens.

high wing harry 3rd December 2011 21:28

"Another piece of paper to clutter the cockpit"

erm... hoping you're joking!!

ShyTorque 3rd December 2011 22:45

I'm sure he's joking. Everyone knows that a paper conversion chart wouldn't be nearly accurate enough for something like this.

BackPacker 3rd December 2011 22:56

True. You're better off doing the conversion on an E6B, although I think IO540 will be along shortly explaining that using a GPS is better...:ok:

Dusty_B 4th December 2011 00:27

What amuses me most is that just as we are wrapping our tongues around a new, SI/PC phrase, the Russians are busy changing from metric to imperial units for altitude.

john_tullamarine 4th December 2011 04:07

... some of us Luddites are still fighting a (losing) rearguard action for poundals and slugs ... perhaps I should champion the cheval ?

Lasiorhinus 4th December 2011 06:40

Let me get this straight - the UK has changed from measuring air pressure in milliBars, to measuring in Hectopascals... which are identical... and you people are complaining about it?

This is an absolute complete non-issue!

Heston 4th December 2011 08:33


Let me get this straight - the UK has changed from measuring air pressure in milliBars, to measuring in Hectopascals... which are identical... and you people are complaining about it?

Coo! Meta-irony, I'm not sure I can cope. I need a lie down ;)

H


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