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sternone 20th December 2009 07:59


This is interesting

AOPA Pilot Blog: Reporting Points Blog Archive Surprising Cirrus Stats
Woops, how are the Cirrus lovers now going to talk them out of the high fatality rate ? Seems to be that the remark "yes but it was pilot error because he did not have a lot of experience" doesn't count anymore.

Dinho Pilot 20th December 2009 16:23

Well...
 
Probably they will say that the cirrus accident rate is a bad as a cessna 182, a columbia, a beechcraft or any other high performance aircraft....
:}

Deeday 22nd December 2009 21:04

Latest from AVweb
 
If you auger in on a Cirrus, at least you are going to make the air crash investigators' job a lot easier (seriously, I just thought that this very well made video was worth a mention).


IO540 23rd December 2009 06:19

Excellent video :ok:

Mind you, stalling anything c. 200ft AGL is not a good idea. What was this pilot thinking of, doing steep turns down there ???

sternone 23rd December 2009 10:19

If somebody has the opportunity to check out a Cirrus when his engine is removed please notice the following items :

* A lot of red silicone caulking on the firewall
* the engine mounts are really puny
* the support structure looks really weak

it just looks FRAGILE

looks like any serious impact would separate the entire front of the fuselage and send the engine into the cockpit, no wonder they have a parachute

007helicopter 23rd December 2009 19:09

Sternone after all your highly informative posts I am thinking of selling my Cirrus as it such a poor puny aircraft, but after what you have said about depreciation I am not sure it is the best move, I just dont know what to do now.:ugh:

Shunter 24th December 2009 09:42

Sternone, you have some very strange ideas and you're getting a little obsessive/boring now. Personally I did more than few hours in an SR22 in the states and it spanks any Piper I've ever flown by a mile. I'm more than happy with owning a Cardinal, but if my flying was purely constrained to longer, solid runways a Cirrus would probably be quite high up on my shopping list.

PS. Have you got your PPL yet?

BRL 24th December 2009 10:01


looks like any serious impact
What a bizarre statement. A serious impact in anything is not going to be good!

Chief Erwin 24th December 2009 10:38

007 I am a LAME and know the cirrus reasonably well and think they are pretty good and very strong aircraft. Yep they tend to make the pilots a little lazy but hey you pay the money you deserve the luxury right.
Red silicon is good as you cant design a vibration free engine and prop.
The engines are designed in the G3 to colllapse down and therefore roll under the cabin in the unfortunate event of a crash...not to bad of an idea hey?

sternone 24th December 2009 12:26


PS. Have you got your PPL yet?
Shunter, yes I have my PPL and even much more than that.

But hey, I don't mind that you play it on the person. Enjoy it. Go ahead. Feel good.

I'm flying my King Air tomorrow again. Go ahead and feel king of the world in whatever that may be for you.

007helicopter 24th December 2009 15:17


Help! Today i solo'd with 43hrs!! Am i a bad pilot ?
Hi folks, today i solo'd with 43hrs instruction under my belt, not really like alot of folks who are proud to solo on their 8th hour instruction etc.. but who cares.

:D

Sternone out of interest you appear to have gone solo for the 1st time in October 2007 after 43 hours and now a couple of years later you say you have "much more than a PPL" would be interested to know what the much more is ??

flybymike 24th December 2009 15:38

Apparently a King Air C90, perhaps with a chauffeur to drive it.

stepwilk 24th December 2009 15:48

Subscribed. I want to see where _this_ goes.

dont overfil 24th December 2009 16:03

Sternone,
So now if it's not a Mooney, Twin Comm, or a C90 it's no use?
What's next? a Challenger? B737BJ?
DO.
Sorry couldn't resist.

sternone 26th December 2009 06:31

Yeah sucks he ? From a 43hour solo'r to a PA39 and King Air owner.

Get a life. I did.

TWR 26th December 2009 14:50

20 days ago you were only renting it and now you have bought the C90B ?

Talking about a Christmas present ! :rolleyes:

debiassi 26th December 2009 17:03

cirrus sr22
 
I would hazzard a guess that people brand them as dangerous due to their inability to recover from a spin. So if an inadvertent spin occurs during a brief moment of spatial disorientation, thats the end of the airframe and of course the pilot too if he fails to act quickly. The POH actually states in emergency procedures to activate the chute if a spin is encountered. I am also informed from a very reliable source that the chute was the only way for cirrus to obtain certification due to this very issue. Now there are lots of performance singles out there that arent certified for spins but will at least recover and protect the pilot in a momentary lapse but unfortunately not this slippery performer.

Shunter 26th December 2009 22:36

In-flight King-Air picture with P2 holding a sign saying "<- Sternone P1"... or it never happened ;)

paulp 26th December 2009 22:58


I am also informed from a very reliable source that the chute was the only way for cirrus to obtain certification due to this very issue.
You need to get better sources. Europe required a spin series to certify the aircraft. I know people who have recovered the SR22 from a spin. The focus was on spin prevention rather than spin recovery since the two can run counter to each other. When an aircraft is the number one selling plane in the world then the competition puts a lot of false data out there.

glazer 27th December 2009 09:29

Cirrus SR22 Turbo CAPs pull over water:
Pilot escapes sinking plane | Mackay News | Local News in Mackay | Mackay Daily Mercury


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