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Jay_solo 28th July 2009 08:47

NPPL and Aerobatic competition
 
Can you take part in amateur aerobatic competitions with NPPL?

eharding 28th July 2009 09:07


Originally Posted by Jay_solo (Post 5087924)
Can you take part in amateur aerobatic competitions with NPPL?

Yes, you can.

BackPacker 28th July 2009 09:21

In fact, there are even provisions that you can compete (though not win) with a safety pilot on board. Useful if you have a medical restriction that prevents you from flying solo.

Zulu Alpha 28th July 2009 17:55

Several pilots compete on NPPLs.

Why ever not?

ZA

Cusco 28th July 2009 18:53

ZA wrote


Several pilots compete on NPPLs.

Why ever not?

One possible reason might be that as some PPLs who lose their Class 2 medicals revert to the 'lesser' NPPL medical signed off by their GP, the stresses both physical and mental of aerobatic competition might just be too much for the Class 2 failed medical heart condition for example.

I'm still not sure that all GPs are aware of the difference between Aerobatic flying and trundling a HGV around the M25.

And there are likely to be a concentration of spectators not far from the aerobatic box.

Just a theory

Cusco

eharding 28th July 2009 21:57


Originally Posted by Cusco (Post 5089057)
I'm still not sure that all GPs are aware of the difference between Aerobatic flying and trundling a HGV around the M25.

Indeed, I find punting an aeroplane around the competition box far less stressful than negotiating the M25, even if the Rangie doesn't quite qualify as an HGV.

You should try it.

Blues&twos 28th July 2009 22:33

I have tried both. Driving a wagon doesn't give quite the same adrenaline rush...most of the time. And my lorry wasn't fitted with a vomitometer.

Jay_solo 30th July 2009 12:59

I had asked because of this:

"Aerobatics in powered aircraft

Before entering an aerobatic competition in a powered aircraft , you must first hold a full pilots licence. Types of licence privileges can vary from country to country, but in the UK this is, at minimum, a private pilot licence (Group A aircraft). "


Taken from the British Aerobatics Association website: Training

I noticed they say "full pilots license" and at a minimum a private pilots license. No mention of NPPL, so it got me thinking.

Personally, to grant privileges to dance in the sky to a full PPL holder and not an NPPL holder makes no sense. In aerobatics you're not flying cross country or into IMC. Your flying a light aircraft in a controlled space of air for the competition or recreation. You just need to know how to control your aircraft, something which is taught at both license levels!

BackPacker 30th July 2009 13:05


but in the UK this is, at minimum, a private pilot licence
Good point. I would actually contact the BAeA about this - Jen Buckenham would be your first point of call. You can find her details on the BAeA website.


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