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RTN11 19th March 2009 19:04

Storm Window
 
What is the "storm window" for on piper aircraft?

I've asked a few instructors and heard a few theories but never had a definitive answer. Can't seem to find out online either.

Mike744 19th March 2009 19:23

I understand its also known as a DV (Direct View?)
I'm just a student but it's uses so far are: open it to shout 'clear prop'
plus gives a perfect view for a photo opportunity. Suspect its main use is when the screen visibility is reduced for whatever reason then you can at least have some unrestricted view via the DV window.
I'd be interested to know if I'm right?

18greens 19th March 2009 19:26

Its also called the DV panel or direct vision panel.

If the windscreen freezes up or gets covered in oil you pop the panel open and hey presto you can see the runway.

Also useful for tapping your ash out and if the door opens in flight open the panel to make the door easier to close.

Never heard it called a storm window.

Islander2 19th March 2009 19:26

If you try peeing out of it your rear-seat passengers will confirm that it's appropriately named. ;)

RTN11 19th March 2009 20:17

I had heard it referred to as a DV panel, but was told it stood for Direct Ventilation so if the main door opens during flight, you open the little window and it makes the main door easier to close because of the pressure.

Not so sure why it's called a storm window, but i've seen in on piper documents so it is an official name. Not sure what help it would be in a storm.

so many uses for a small flap.

Rightbase 19th March 2009 20:18

1. So you can reach in and turn off the master switch after checking the lights, stall warner and pitot heat and before the battery is too flat to start it on a cold day.

2. So the dwarf sitting in front of the nose wheel not wearing a high vis jacket can hear your 'clear prop' call.

3. To clear the cabin air quickly if you frighten yourself, your instructor or your passenger(s) during a critical phase of the flight.

isi3000 19th March 2009 20:21

I know it can be used as an in-flight rubbish disposal :oh:

BackPacker 19th March 2009 23:18

Mandatory emergency escape, because a Piper only has one door on the RHS.

Gotta remember that the people were a lot smaller on average when Piper designed the PA-28, about halfway through the previous century.

Mark1234 19th March 2009 23:24

I'd think the connection between 'storm window' and 'direct vision' panel was fairly obvious - a storm's another good way of blocking your natural forward visibility.

Never heard of it called a ventilation panel, but hey. More to the point, I'd not like to try returning to earth if the only 'visual' bit I had was out that tiny hole..

@backpacker - Nice :)

flybymike 20th March 2009 00:13

Direct vision panel for 100 knot crosswind component landings with the wind from the right and all other windows iced up.

Kyprianos Biris 20th March 2009 06:49

On Socata TB series the storm window is the little opening window on the port side. Very useful.

You can see it if you click on the TB20 Trinidad image of the link below to load the high res. version of it.
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Final 3 Greens 20th March 2009 09:17

Its for shooting buzzards, in flight.

Carrying on a practice described in 'Behind the Cockpit Door', by Capt Arthur Whitlock.

bjornhall 20th March 2009 09:20

I thought it was to give flightsim model designers another part to animate...

B2N2 20th March 2009 12:53


Mandatory emergency escape, because a Piper only has one door on the RHS.

Gotta remember that the people were a lot smaller on average when Piper designed the PA-28, about halfway through the previous century.
Coffee on my keyboard now..ROFL


unrestricted view via the DV window
REALLY? Why did they put it off to the side then?
If you have that much oil on your windscreen (or ice for that matter) in a single you won't make an airport.
My money goes to ventilation on the ground and as a side effect it slightly less difficult to close the door in flight. Don't ask me how I know.

VFE 20th March 2009 13:12

If you are ever unfortunate enough to experience smoke in the cockpit whilst airbourne you will soon discover what that little window is for.

VFE.

Windy Militant 20th March 2009 13:49

I though the DV was for firing flares out of at Mach one as in Airport 79 or 80, the one with the Concorde in. :}

DeeCee 20th March 2009 13:50

Try flying in France in the middle of summer and you'll be grateful for any extra cool air.

Open it in flight and the aircraft will yaw slightly to the right.

Tasslehoff 20th March 2009 17:41


I know it can be used as an in-flight rubbish disposal :oh:

No. We don't do that, not in a car/boat/plane etc.

vanHorck 20th March 2009 20:06

odd position for an emergency potty......

L'aviateur 20th March 2009 21:51

I've always assumed its for ventilation, and unless i'm cold leave it up open all the time in preference over the fan. (am i wrong doing that?)


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