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Bronx 27th August 2008 17:31

Thanks for the suggestions so far.

172driver
A cross-Africa flight.
West side including across the Sahara.

B.

vintagemember 27th August 2008 18:42

Aeronca C3 with long range tanks and a blind flying panel. Did London to Capetown in 1936.

silvereagle 27th August 2008 18:54

If you decide on the Caravan, I have two and would be happy to supply you with a pilot. Just let me know.

old,not bold 27th August 2008 19:28

In my experience of long flights the Percival Prentice was quite good; rumbled along on cruise RPM/moderate boost, very stable, all the way LGW to Sharjah, quite a long time ago. Some downsides, like the occasional quietness when the engine stopped in cloud because it didn't like dampness or caught fire, bit slow, drank fuel, but in general not a bad aircraft on a cold day. There's one at Coventry.

Mind you, that's my only experience of a long flight in a light aircraft. A grown-up spamcan could be boring, I think. What about one of the "microlights"? Now that would be fun. 450Kg for you, fuel and the aircraft. Should be enough. Mogas, too, I think, on a Rotax?

Think outside the box!

barit1 27th August 2008 20:53

If operating on mogas is a requirement, one cannot beat a Wasp or Wasp Jr. - and for sheer comfort and reliability go in a DGA!
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...t1/thext-1.jpg

One flew the London-to-Victoria race (1973??)

BackPacker 27th August 2008 22:27

If refueling en-route might be a problem, you can always just do the whole distance in one go, taking off with all the fuel on-board that you need.

However, the only single engine that I know of that's capable of flying those distances and beyond is now on permanent static display at the Smithsonian.

Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

172driver 27th August 2008 23:04


172driver
A cross-Africa flight.
West side including across the Sahara.
OK, we're getting somewhere (must say, I kinda liked the 777 with one donk switched off suggestion ;)!)

Now, Africa, west side, you'll run into the Avgas issue. However, this is doable with some planning. If you can lay your hand on one, I'd suggest a C210 with the tip tanks (endurance AFAIK +/- 10 hours) and pre-positioned fuel. You'll be fine into mid/southern Morocco, then you'll need to organize the drums. Mate of mine did just that - PM me for his details. Avgas is avail again from Namibia on, possibly (need to check) Cameroon. Also, in a 210 you can land pretty much anywhere, and there are maintenance shops along the way that can fix things.

IO540 28th August 2008 06:19

The problem is that somebody cannot hope to post a few vague lines and expect intelligent answers.

RotaryWingB2 28th August 2008 07:05

Quest Kodiak.

Questaircraft.com | Quest Aircraft Company

A friend just flew one back from the states to the Fatherland, and loves it.:ok:

scooter boy 28th August 2008 13:06

The Mooney Ovation 2 GX.
2400nm range - 160kts at 10gph.
Svc celing FL200
192kts max cruise if you're in a hurry.
Unbeatable range and economy, you would only have to stop twice on your 6000nm trip.

Just make sure you take a large pee container.

Nothing else comes close

SB

IO540 28th August 2008 19:14


2400nm range - 160kts at 10gph
Amazing.

What altitude (ISA assumed) is the 160kt TAS?

scooter boy 29th August 2008 23:06

IO, best performance for me seems to be up at FL150-160.
I know this means O2 but the fuel saving is far more significant than the cost of the O2.
SB

larssnowpharter 30th August 2008 06:12

Personal choice for the trip described: Helio Stallion.

1000 mile range with standard tanks; very useful payload, 175knts cruise and the ability to land on a postage stamp.

If budget an issue get an old Courier

F900EX 24th September 2008 17:17

Would love to know how you squeeze 2400nm out of an Ovation

"QUOTE: The Mooney Ovation 2 GX.
2400nm range - 160kts at 10gph.
Svc celing FL200
192kts max cruise if you're in a hurry.
Unbeatable range and economy, you would only have to stop twice on your 6000nm trip.
Just make sure you take a large pee container.
Nothing else comes close
SB"

rauxaman 24th September 2008 19:58

>>>Some downsides, like the occasional quietness when the engine stopped in cloud because it didn't like dampness or caught fire<<<

A master stroke in under-statement!!!:D

flyboy2508 24th September 2008 22:58

Piper Cherokee Six
 
Piper Cherokee Six - great aircraft and got us around the world, 24,000 nm. Take the back 4 seats out and drop in a ferry tank and you have range over 2,000nm

IO540 25th September 2008 05:59

With a ferry tank you can have all the range you want, but you need a permission for every flight because the plane has a special mod and is probably loaded outside its CofA. Not very practical.

IFollowRailways 25th September 2008 11:28


Take a STEMME S10vt and you could glide most of the way.(50-1 ratio)
Just kidding, though it would be a unique way of doing it.
Try reading about Owen Truelove. UK to New Zealand by Stemme.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...icle663616.ece

pistongone 25th September 2008 14:29

According to the mooney web site, the ovation 2gx has optional tanks with a 128 usg capacity. They do quote 2400nm range. But at 10usg/hr that means 150 usg to dry tanks? 8usg/hr for 15 hrs + 45 mins reserve would be the numbers given the info on the site. Mooney - Specifications/Performance

skygeezer 2nd October 2008 19:23

The Quest Kodiak
 
I flew 005 back from the states recently. The only one in Europe. We did several legs over 5 hours (at a typical cruise of 160kias) one of which was over 6 hours non stop and all of it on internal tanks. No ferry tanks required. Ok so we were up at 25,000 for most of it but its still not bad........


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