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I have a sleeping partner - he hasn't been near the aircraft for over ten years.

How am I going to get him to join up?

Hi Flying-Dutch, I have answered your questions on the LAA forum about the LAA/PCS Coaches, it does not matter what aeroplane, permit or CofA you have, as long as you are a LAA member your can use the coaches for BFR and more. All coaches are at least CRI's, allot of us hold higher ratings, but offer our services in the spirit of the LAA for a small fee. This is approved by the CAA and is for the LAA/PCS scheme. Hope to see some of you at the LAA/PCS trainning days at various airfields around the UK during the season, see the LAA mag for details....you have to be a member to get that too !!

Will.

I agree with Ken - if you are going to run a permit plane be a member.. Simple as that

(I am and my plane is on a c of a but want to support people who stand up for light aircraft users - and the membership fee represents in £££ terms about one circuit so what's the big deal?)

Hi all
It is a requirement of the IAA, over here in Ireland, that all Permit aircraft owners be members of their relevant organisation,as the IAA require the organisation to be able to "promulgate essential information" (their words)via the organisation's media as well as relying on the IAA's own distribution system.
Apart from that, the cost of membership is so small, it would be petty not to.
regards
TDD

Will,

Thanks for that I shall have a look shortly.

The main question was whether CRIs who may not have a CPL or class 1 can instruct under this scheme and the LAA paid for it?

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Just join stop whinning!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do not see how mearly pointing out the facts is classed at whinning, there might have been some later in the thread, but when you posted this all it was was a "heads up" and a little further info - don't be so quick!:*

As far as the CRIs under the coaching scheme goes, my understanding is that they cannot charge for the instructing, but they may be able to charge reasonable expenses, i.e. travelling.;)

I think you were being encouraged to start lhosing.

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CPLs are not required for BFRs and I think the Association ensured that all the coaches now have CRI status.
In order to be able to receive payment or valuable consideration for aerial work one needs at least a CPL and Class 1 medical, unless there is a CAA exemption such as exists for microlighting.

Indeed no need for a CPL for BFRs, a CRI will do, but most CRIs will not have CPLs I hazard a guess.

LAA coaches are able to take valuable consideration which includes hard cash for their services as coaches without a CPL or Class 1 Medical. All LAA coaches are a minimum of CRI now and a minimum of 1500hrs.

The LAA are exempted from Article 26 of the ANO 2005 under a special exemption that is renewed yearly at the end of March. The exemption list carries the name of all LAA PCS coaches. All LAA Coaches are also authorised under Par 3(1) Sec 2 Part C of schedule 8 as revalidation examiners.

I have this years Exemption on the desk in front of me.

The LAA publish a list of charges on the LAA website as a guide that an LAA Coach may make. CRI's/FI's without a CPL are therefore able to take payment without any underhand transactions having to take place.

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Are those 1500hrs an entry requirement to become an LAA coach as a CRI?

group ownerships

I was changing our LAA project registration details with the LAA just last week and they let slip that they are now cross referencing all permit applications with the CAA (G-INFO) database before issuing anything. If the project partners are different to the CAA owners it MAY prevent the issue of permit to test, permit to fly and other project completion red tape.

I wonder how they cope with organized syndicates where only a trustee is listed?

This may be a handy loophole.

There will be the Trustee Grid lodged with the CAA listing all members....

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LAA coaches are able to take valuable consideration which includes hard cash for their services as coaches without a CPL or Class 1 Medical. All LAA coaches are a minimum of CRI now and a minimum of 1500hrs.

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Are those 1500hrs an entry requirement to become an LAA coach as a CRI?

Yes, 1500hrs and an Instructor Qualification, FI(R) or CRI(SPA) as a minimum.

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LIGHT AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION
PILOT COACHING SCHEME
Application Form – LAA Coach

Membership Number:

I wish to be considered as a Full LAA Coach to take part in the LAA Pilot Coaching Scheme. My personal details and flying qualifications are as follows:

Personal Details

Name: ............................................................ ............................................................ ...............................
Address: ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................
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Tel/: ............................................................ ............................................................ ....................................

Mobile: ………………………………………………………………… DOB: …………………………………….

e-mail: ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

Pilot Details

Pilot’s Licence Type and No: ............................................................ .........................................................

Pilot Qualifications - IR/IMC, Instructor etc: ............................................................ ....................................

............................................................ ............................................................ ..............................................

............................................................ ............................................................ ..............................................

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Total Pilot Flying Hours: ............................................................ .................................................. Min 1,500

Total Pilot Flying Hours in Light Aircraft including Gliders and SLMGs, but not Hang Gliders or Microlights:

Light Aircraft: ............................................................ . Permit to Fly Aircraft: ..............................................

Gliders/SLMGs: ......................................................... Homebuilts: ............................................................ .

Total experience in last 12 months in above types: ............................................................ .. ... (min 30 hrs)

Home Airfield, if applicable: ............................................................ ............................................................

Signature ............................................................ .................................. Date ...........................................

Please return the completed application form to Penny Sharpe
Light Aircraft Association, Turweston Aerodrome, Nr Brackley, Northants, NN13 5YD