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rogcal 30th November 2006 08:23

Just a thought and I might be way off the mark but could the publishers of Lockyears Farm Strip Guide include a statement covering the liability of strip owners in their guide.

I would go as far to say that I would allow my strip to be included in the guide (something I'd previously never considered) if a statement was made to the effect that the strip is not inspected regularly and livestock, ruts, potholes, electric fences etc, are present and no liabilty will be accepted by the strip owner for any damage/injury howsoever caused to visiting aircraft, their crew and passengers or something like that.

On second thoughts, I'll continue to park a tractor at one end and graze the goats in them middle.

Anyone know of a manufacturer of hi-viz coats for goats (that's just in case some idiot claims not to have seen them).:)

pistongone 30th November 2006 10:22

I walked from the boulders on the hill to the stone wall with a gps and it was 470m. We pushed the plane right back into the boulders and cleared the wall comfortably in a decent 172, 2 men and 2 women on board! Wind was just about neutral. But there are a lot of rushes and slightly boggy stuff to be aware of!
Must agree though, its good fun and the approach is nice and bumpy as you go in over the cliff edge!
Who fancy's a fly in to Lundy?

robin 30th November 2006 10:26

There are issues with some airfields and these are usually well-publicised.

The series of accidents at Netherthorpe show that some pilots are very casual with their w&b and take-off/landing calcs.

Strip flying is a skill that needs to be kept in practice, and not all aircraft or pilots are up to dealing with the more challenging strips. I try to visit as many as I can, but there are one or two I'd never go to in my aircraft. At times even Compton Abbas is a challenge.

possel 30th November 2006 12:03


Originally Posted by PompeyPaul (Post 2993815)
Have seen it mentioned a few times.

Also if you are feeling generous what is th difference between QFE & QNE and what do they stand for ?

Prior Permission Required

QFE - barometric pressure setting to give height above airfield (Field Elevation)
QNH - barometric pressure setting to give height above sea level (nominally Newlyn Harbour)

It changes by about 30ft per mb so if you are at Lydd the difference is negligible.

IO540 30th November 2006 14:59

Lundy is shown in the normally accurate Navbox as 400m grass.

S-Works 30th November 2006 15:20

Nice to see you made it out of our place in one piece today, IO! If I had known you were going to walk the runway I would have sent you out with a broom!!

Nice to see you, hope the tea was not to bad!

IO540 30th November 2006 15:31

The tea was fine, thank you Bose-X :)

I kicked away as many stones as I could find and got away from the rest OK; no nicks in the prop this time.

I put the heater on full blast the moment I was in the air!! Perhaps the perpetual sub-zero OAT is what prevents the NIMBYs up your way from closing all those airfields they way they have done down where I live. They are all stuck in their little houses, shivering, feet up against the coal fire :) :)

pistongone 30th November 2006 15:43

It does say 400 yards in the book, but if you push your plane back into the boulders you get the extra distance. Its like a displaced threshold, and as WR said it depends on your interpretation of "rough"! Also the wall at the east side is less than 4' high, so i expect they make overly generous allowances for that. Lastly, if it was a bit marginal, you can jink it up over the wall without worrying of a stall as you are straight out over a 300' cliff:eek: :eek:
As i said before, i would definitely be up for a meet on Lundy! :ok: Who's coming:)
I have heard that B+B is available on the island, although i hven't tried it!

QDMQDMQDM 30th November 2006 21:07


Just a thought and I might be way off the mark but could the publishers of Lockyears Farm Strip Guide include a statement covering the liability of strip owners in their guide.
Disclaimers don't stop people suing for negligence or courts finding in their favour.


If someone had a mishap in a PA28-161 at any weight, or even had a mishap in a Piper Cub, I can't see how they could sue the Landmark Trust. It's a risky place to visit and you take your chance. Just like most such strips.
I agree with you. The worry is that in the current climate they easily could.


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