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S205-18F 26th September 2006 19:37

You did SS and she certainly is a lady with no obvious vices! But I was warned not to get too complacent as that is when she will bite if she is going to.

Crash one 26th September 2006 21:31

Great stuff guys. For a rookie stude like me to look forward to.
I want one!!!

Dark Helmet 27th September 2006 07:25

Anyone know who does taildragger conversion courses near Cambridge?

EGBKFLYER 27th September 2006 07:34

I think someone at Cambridge does them? Not sure.

Otherwise www.nsof.co.uk at Peterborough Sibson.

EGCC4284 27th September 2006 08:37

Have You Had The Sim Check

Dark Helmet 27th September 2006 09:03


Originally Posted by EGCC4284 (Post 2874986)
Have You Had The Sim Check

Sorry, don't quite understand this. What Sim Check?

EGBKFLYER 27th September 2006 09:21

Apologies Dark Helmet - the EGCC was talking to me!

EGCC chk your PMs...

RTOagain 8th October 2006 18:33

Tailwheel conversion
 

Originally Posted by EGBKFLYER (Post 2874894)
I think someone at Cambridge does them? Not sure.
Otherwise www.nsof.co.uk at Peterborough Sibson.

Cambridge had a CAP10B but no longer - I too am looking for tailwheel training and spoke to them about it today. I guess the nearest must be Sibson unless you fancy the Tigers at Cambridge

Lister Noble 9th October 2006 07:30


Originally Posted by Dark Helmet (Post 2874885)
Anyone know who does taildragger conversion courses near Cambridge?

I did mine at Clacton in a Super Cub,I live in Norfolk and it's probably not too far from Cambridge.
They do a residential 2 day course but I travelled in from home when conditions were good and the aircraft was either booked to me or free.
Lister
:)
PS I've now finished my check rides and can fly the L4 on my own!:D :D :D

hobbit1983 9th October 2006 08:25

Old Sarum also do taildragger courses on the Supercub....I know it's a bit far from Cambridge but the reason I mention it is because I've booked my conversion there in two weekends time!

Having gotten to the airfield once & only getting as far as taxi practice (due to high crosswinds)

I have to ask - what's it like to fly, or any tips generally?

Thanks

slim_slag 9th October 2006 08:53

Hardest part of flying a supercub is moving around on the ground in strong winds so sounds like you have done the tricky bit. It has a ridiculously low demonstrated crosswind, but it has a huge rudder and in practice you can sideslip it down the extended runway centreline in almost any crosswind that you can come up with. It's when you reach the ground the fun begins.

As for flying it, far more fun than a spamcan. I guess the biggest thing you will notice is the roll rate, it is extremely responsive compared to a spam can. You will notice that when you start base-final turns and you end up pointing nowhere near the runway. You can also land it on a sixpence. Once you have worked out how to land the supercub it will help your tricycle landings immensely. Flying the numbers is very important. With the huge rudder it's also very important to coordinate so make sure you can properly roll on a heading (dutch roll type of thing) before you start to do pattern work. IMO.

All in all it's an absolutely superb airplane and real flying (IMO).

effortless 9th October 2006 09:19

Cambridge Flying Group do indeed do conversion training and I can reccommend them highly. They do not overcharge either considering what some others charge for Tigermoth hours. The taxi is interesting as you have to watch for Hercules induced crosswinds on a lumpy grass taxyway. Lovely people Google for them.

High Wing Drifter 9th October 2006 09:54


Old Sarum also do taildragger courses on the Supercub....I know it's a bit far from Cambridge but the reason I mention it is because I've booked my conversion there in two weekends time!
That's where I did my conversion. The Supercub is great, except for the heel brakes! They also have the second runway for practicing high speed ground handling (take-off acceleration and slow down without actually taking off).

TheBeeKeeper 9th October 2006 10:00

Less than an hour away from Cambridge you will find Henlow Flying Club, they have a Tiger Moth and a Chipmunk for Tail-dragger conversions.

Bit of a pain getting on site for the first time, but once that is sorted you'll find a couple of great aircraft to fly and an interesting hanger full of privately owned toys.... Tigers, Leopard Moths, Jackaroo etc...

TBK

hobbit1983 9th October 2006 12:13

Thanks for the responses; Yeah, the crosswinds made things interesting whilst taxiing...I thought I was doing quite well until I had to turn through more than 45deg...!

Hoping the course will improve my landings. Looking forward to flying something a bit more interesting than the average spamcan. As far as I can tell so far however, the most difficult part of the conversion is getting in the front seat!

Dark Helmet 16th October 2006 07:37

Thank you all for your responses. I will certainly do a bit more research.

HAL-26 17th October 2006 13:58

Sorry its taken me so long to congratulate you, S205-18F, on joining the ranks of Luton aviators!

Having spent about 100 hours over the past couple of years jammed twix fuselage and wing (only people who've tried to enter a Luton will understand that!), I know how much fun you'll be having!

One piece of pertinant advice though that was drummed into me when I first bought my aeroplane. PLEASE use a picket to tie the tail down when starting, even if you've got the stick tied back. The Luton has a tailwheel weight of only 22 pounds, and its amazing how fast the tail will come up if you've got too many revs.

I escaped the fate, but I've seen two other Minors with cropped propellors in the past two years!

How about a "rookie's tale" for the Luton Minor website www.lutonminor.com ?

PS. I can fully recommend Henlow Flying CLub and CFI Joe Wrights patience in a bouncing Tiger Moth too!
Steve

S205-18F 18th October 2006 08:05

Hi HAL-26 Thanks for the good wishes, I have noted your advice on tying the tail down and I did wonder about it. There are 2 Lutons at Errol my own one G-BBCY and G-ATCJ. I will write a short note about being a Luton newbie and I have visited your site it is most informative. I also appreciate your comment about getting into the Luton then being between the wing and cockpit it is cosy!!!

HAL-26 21st October 2006 12:51


Originally Posted by S205-18F (Post 2914908)
I also appreciate your comment about getting into the Luton then being between the wing and cockpit it is cosy!!!

Just to illustrate, for those who haven't experienced the joys of the "Luton legover" technique for boarding.

http://www.lutonminor.com/legover.htm

If you think that's fun, just wait till the throttle goes up your trouser leg as you're half way in!:eek:


S205-18F 21st October 2006 20:59

Hi Folks I am just back from Errol and flying today we had all the taildraggers out .Tom with G-ATCJ Luton minor, G-BBCY Luton minor, G-FOXG a kitfox and a streak shadow. I have photos of the line up but am not sure of how to up load them here. I wish I had read the "how to get into a Luton minor" article before I tried today, it is difficult if you dont have the knack. I will post the pictures soon.


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