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Whirlybird 25th December 2005 10:14

Fly for Free!!!!!!
 
Idly browsing through Ebay before settling down to eat too much, I came upon this.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5649206868

So what is it? Where's the catch? Who is this guy? Is he trying to get more hours on his aircraft, or what? And is it legal?

Any ideas?

Monocock 25th December 2005 10:32

Ahem....Whirls, why are you looking at ebay on Christmas Day?:bored:

Surely you shoud be wandering round the house with a hangover, basting your giblets, laying the table and ripping open your stocking..

Perhaps you were offloading your unwanted gifts?!

Anyway, do you mean this?

I must say I'm intrigued too.

I've got BRL's ebay password so will put a bit on for £2k later....:E

(Looks like we are having the same link problems. However, if you type the item number 5649206868 into the search box it should work)

VP8 25th December 2005 10:43

Could be glider tugging or meat bombing some clubs do it for free

VEEPS

Bahn-Jeaux 25th December 2005 11:18

Hmm, he says,

If you are the successful bidder, I will email you everything that you need to know in order for you to fly for free.
Doesnt mean you will be with him.
Sounds similar to the scam where you advertise for people to make easy money and ask for £1, having sent your quid, you get a reply saying "place an advert charging £1 for info on how to make easy money" and so it goes on.
In the case of flying though, I cannot imagine such a scam being sustainable but I can imagine just getting a piece of paper that tells you to get your commercial licence then you wont have to pay to fly.
Cynical aint I.

ShyTorque 25th December 2005 11:44

It must be another scam - Ebay have removed it.

Probably said something like: "Steal an aircraft. That'll be £1 please!"

But then, I'm apparently just the resident cynic....... ;)

VP8 25th December 2005 13:25

It's still there!!

type - Got a Private Pilots Licence Fly for FREE in Ebay find item


VEEPS

ChampChump 25th December 2005 14:18

It seems ppruneing today isn't quite as sad as I thought - such illustrious company! I couldn't get any of the links to work so will continue to fly the expensive way, hoping the rest of you will follow up in due course... :confused:

Happy Christmas all. (It's happy here -I'm galumphing about, having had my fix today: a glorious sky, a rainbow ending just offshore and the wind straight down the strip. (I won't mention 'CC's flat battery to save her blushes). Not exactly free flying, but it could as well have been).

Please find enclosed grovelling apologies for swerving off topic.

Flap40 25th December 2005 14:25

Whoever mentioned meatbombing is probably very close to the answer. Note the photo is of a bloke standing next to an Islander with its rear door missing and a C208 in the background.

IO540 25th December 2005 15:33

Ebay haven't removed it. Go to www.ebay.co.uk and enter

5649206868

into the Search box.

Another possibility to that already mentioned (would a parachute drop pilot not need more than 100hrs?????) is that somebody who cannot fly any longer for medical reasons is looking for somebody to be PIC. That's what I would do if I had my medical pulled. I would still do the same trips etc but would need to find somebody who could be legally PIC.

The ANO "aerial work" wording requires the flight to be pursuant to an agreement, and for the reward to be of more than nominal nature. This wouldn't present a problem. Given a nice plane and nice locations, it would be very easy to find people who would do a "job" like that. But admittedly then the PPL wouldn't need to have any min hours - unless the "recruiter" really cannot fly the plane anymore.

Happy Xmas all :O

IanSeager 25th December 2005 15:39

I thought he was selling a guide to free flying - ie parachute/glider towing suff. It's the guide that's for sale surely?

Ian

ChampChump 25th December 2005 23:05

Yup, that way worked, second time. Thanks. It does look rather like glider tugging or parachute scattering, but it seems a bit desperate to advetise there, rather than in more conventional markets. Were I bothered enough, I would try matching up the known sources to the information shown.

If one has to pay even £1.30, it's not free is it? :rolleyes:

Whirlybird 26th December 2005 08:20

I'm surprised this has so many posts; you most all have spent Christmas being as bored as I was. Anyway, to save everyone looking on Ebay, here's the description of the "item"...

Think flying is expensive? Wish you could afford to fly more often? Not really flying enough to keep current? You can fly for FREE and it's 100% legal and within the rules.

It's true! If you have a UK / JAA PPL it is possible to fly for free.

If you are the successful bidder, I will email you everything that you need to know in order for you to fly for free. I will also undertake to answer any further questions you have by email and provide email support, contacts etc.

You MUST have a UK or JAA PPL and NOT an NPPL. You MUST also have a MINIMUM of 100 hours as pilot in command.
On reading it more carefully, I agree - I think what you'll get is emailed instructions on how to do glider towing etc. I suppose it's a good little scam, if anyone's daft enough to bid. Two bids so far...maybe I'll watch it and see what happens....

IO540 26th December 2005 09:19

There is a lot of scams on Ebay, selling e.g. laptops for £5, and in fact what is on sale is just a book about the laptop. Mind you, if you are to get into Ebay scams you could go on for ages....

flybyday 26th December 2005 16:56

Definitely related to piloting skydivers. See:

http://www.pilotweb.co.uk/content/pi...t.aspx?id=3113

yawningdog 26th December 2005 18:06

Not a very scary scam if he's only going to make £1.20. How much could he possibly expect to make?

wingman863 26th December 2005 19:06

It would seem that the idea is for you to fly skydivers etc and as a result not to have to pay the costs of the flight yourself. Yet while he says this is within the rules, I don't think it is as far as the ANO reads. It says something along the lines of a pilot who does not hold a commercial rating has to pair his "share" of a flights costs. Ie: five People including the pilot will split the costs five ways. The crucial thing is that the pilot has to pay his share. It is illegal if he does not as far as I understand it.

I may be wrong and usually am so someone who is more familiar with such matters would need to comment on what I've said.

S-Works 26th December 2005 19:55

I was under the impression that a PPL can fly skdivers as long as he does not receive payment.

wbryce 26th December 2005 20:34

bose,

isn't there a requirement that the PIC of a private flight must pay a percentage of the overall flight costs?

gooneydog 26th December 2005 20:35

Yea he only has to jump once a day to meet the reg >>>

ShyTorque 26th December 2005 21:32

Someone's been disappointed this Christmas already.

My son has just told me the story of a work aquaintance of his who recently advertised an "X-Box Box" on Ebay.

He sold it. It WAS just the box.......... don't get scammed.

:suspect:


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