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Kolibear 3rd December 2004 09:33

Two Stations at once....
 
Inspired by the resurrected Southend Frequency thread...

Who else have you heard on shared frequencis?

I've listened to Sywell, from down near White Waltham - (remember that FFF?) and both Popham and CDG from near Bourn. French fishermen used to be regulars on Headcorn's frequency.

Floppy Link 3rd December 2004 10:01

Heard Aldergrove radar and Benson Zone together once on 120.9 (?)
High Pressure system over the UK - VHF ducting or whatever it's called.
Pretty nostalgic as I flew from both places in the RAF :uhoh:

Keygrip 3rd December 2004 10:42

Manchester, Heathrow and Luxembourg Tower (118.62 ?) all on the same day - and all near Manchester, not 'in the middle'.

Another St Ivian 3rd December 2004 11:46

Last summer while flying out of Bourn I could quite often hear De Gaulle Departure, both it and Bourn sharing 124.35 MHz. They couldn't hear me though! :}

ASI

Human Factor 3rd December 2004 12:16

Shanwick Oceanic and Cranfield Approach a few years ago.... :eek:

lobby 3rd December 2004 13:25

Liverpool and Manston

matspart3 3rd December 2004 13:45

Gloucester, Dundee & Battersea all share 122.9MHz

Floppy Link 3rd December 2004 13:59

Perth and Teesside (oops Durham Northeast Darlington Yarm ICI Steel River International)

Small Rodent Driver 3rd December 2004 14:23

Just about to turn final at Barton thinking that I was the only traffic and heard somebody else calling final!

Turned out to be at Sywell which shares 122.70 with Barton.

Woke me up I can tell you.

Monocock 3rd December 2004 15:05

I was listening to Sywell in the circuit at Compton Abbas the other day:confused:

Chilli Monster 3rd December 2004 20:17

Yeovilton and Waddington. A real pain at any level above FL60 as you constantly cross with transmissions at the other end of the country. As they're both LARS units able to work up to FL95 it's about time one of these was changed

(FL65 the other day abeam Yeovilton - with the high pressure I was able to hear an aircraft climbing out of Gamston - weird! :) )

boomerangben 3rd December 2004 20:35

If i remember rightly one of the Aberdeen offshore frequencies could catch traffic going into Schipol. Hope traffic going into Schipol couldn't hear us - a S61 at 110kts would not have been welcome!

High Wing Drifter 3rd December 2004 20:49

A French bloke at Lashenden.

vintage ATCO 3rd December 2004 22:39

Many years ago, Luton had a radar freq 127.3, so did Cherbourg. During certain atmospheric conditions we could actually get two way contact with them. She sounded very nice!! :D

VP8 4th December 2004 07:23

Clacton and an Amsterdam company frequency usually together!!

Evil J 4th December 2004 09:34

East Mids Tower (124.0) and a french freq (Paris FIR??) is often a problem during high pressure

srs what? 4th December 2004 12:37

Blackbushe and Peterborough Sibson is always a problem especially with aicraft calling up at FLXXX to check on any drops.

Gertrude the Wombat 4th December 2004 15:07


Blackbushe and Peterborough Sibson is always a problem
Certainly was today. To start with I thought I must be on the wrong frequency and checked it several times, then I said "Sibson" in front of every single transmission to try to avoid confusion.

bookworm 4th December 2004 17:20

Departed Cambridge for Carlisle about 6 weeks ago on an anticyclonic day. Both Cambridge App and Carlisle are on 123.6. It was really weird to hear, while approaching Carlisle, the voices of some pilots at Cambridge that I had been talking to on the ground some 90 mins earlier!

cotterpot 4th December 2004 20:15

The Sibson - Blackbushe problem or anywhere I expect can be even worse when there are aircraft calling or being called with the same letters in the abreviated call sign. It happened to me recentlly.

Kyprianos Biris 6th December 2004 05:48

Stapleford and Brest Control (or information) in France.

It's been since mid 90's that I haven't flown over Kent but I do remember the overlapping back then.

Red Four 6th December 2004 08:11

Stapleford is not in Kent of course; and the D.O.C. of an air to ground frequency is usually limited to a maximum of 10 miles from the station. This means that pilots should not be trying to transmit on the frequency outside this range. By doing so they may be causing all sorts of problems for other units that have been also been allocated the frequency (in different geographical areas) perhaps amongst them Brest Control!

Suspect that some of the instances posted here are based on transmissions outside the D.O.C.s of the airfileds concerned. Also it is entirely possible that the ground equipment at some A/G FISO units is not subject to the same regular testing of performance and levels that ATC units would be, and therefore may be transmitting at a stronger signal than they were licensed for.

squibbler 6th December 2004 11:22


High Pressure system over the UK - VHF ducting or whatever it's called.
Tropospheric Ducting

http://home.cogeco.ca/~dxinfo/tropo_eur.html

bookworm 6th December 2004 12:22


Stapleford is not in Kent of course; and the D.O.C. of an air to ground frequency is usually limited to a maximum of 10 miles from the station. This means that pilots should not be trying to transmit on the frequency outside this range. By doing so they may be causing all sorts of problems for other units that have been also been allocated the frequency (in different geographical areas) perhaps amongst them Brest Control!
Interesting point. And AFAIR there's a maximum altitude for certain ground stations too -- is it 3000 ft for tower/AFIS/AG? (Where is DOC listed, BTW? I can't find anything in the AIP or CAP413.)

So given that places like Sibson drop parachutists from up to FL150, how am I supposed to ask them what their activity status is when I'm flying close by at FL90?

Kolibear 18th September 2005 20:03

Coming out of Fowlmere yesterday (Saturday), I tuned the radio to North Weald on 123.52, but actually dialled 123.25. It was bit of a surprise to hear someone asking for a taxi, I know North Weald does have some very helpful A/G but they aren't usually that helpful. The penny dropped when the voice continued and asked for a taxi to the Crab & Lobster!

So I've heard Bembridge from up near Fowlmere/Royston

Them thar hills 18th September 2005 20:43

Two for the price of one
 
Don't forget 122.1 RAF common tower frequency. Or 122.2 :-
Sunderland
Tatenhill
Cambridge
Crosland Moor
How did we survive ?
TTH

Chilli Monster 18th September 2005 20:57


And AFAIR there's a maximum altitude for certain ground stations too -- is it 3000 ft for tower/AFIS/AG? (Where is DOC listed, BTW? I can't find anything in the AIP or CAP413.)
Extract from UK AIP GEN 3.4.3 (where all the relevant bits can be found).


Use of VHF R/T Channels
..............In the
case of TWR, AFIS and A/G facilities, communications on these frequencies should be restricted as far as possible to
heights up to 1000 ft in the immediate vicinity of the aerodrome concerned and in any event within 10 nm and 3000 ft.

BEagle 18th September 2005 21:04

Unimpressed the other day when landing at a certain aerodrome (not a million miles from Oxford) to hear some bizjet operator saying "Ah - we're still with Paris, estimating you at (27 minutes time). Could you blah, blah, waffle arrange for a car to pick up our passenger, blah, blah...."

10 miles, di ckhead!

Rang their SATCO later to suggest that the pilot was rebriefed NOT to use Tower frequency as a 'Company' frequency.

When listening to the Sovs chatting on their Bear-to-Bear frequency many years ago, we used to get breakthrough from a UK-based flying training aerodrome on occasion....

High Wing Drifter 19th September 2005 07:14

I heard one or two calls for Peterbourgh Sibson in the Blackbushe circuit on Saturday and I often hear French folk at Lashenden.

EddieHeli 19th September 2005 14:39

During nice flying days nearly always hear someone calling Compton Abbas when I am near (and talking to) Sywell.

AerBabe 19th September 2005 16:13


I know North Weald does have some very helpful A/G but they aren't usually that helpful
Ouch! Actually, I'll have you know we always order taxis when asked. Or, if we're busy, ask The Squadron to do the same. What I do find odd is people who spend several minutes pre-flighting their aircraft, starting the engine, then requesting a taxi to Southend. :confused:


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