As comments must be offered by July 31st, I will set aside a day or two in the last fortnight to get my head round all this. Irv - your breakdown helps, thank you.

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Well - I haven't had time to search for definitions just now, but I read this to mean that a 3rd country aircraft or 3rd country pilots would be those registered or licensed in coutries outside EASA (EASA may include EC treaty states, not just EU, but obviously not USA).
therefore yes, I read 3rd country as 'N' reg, and FAA licences when it is used. I assume they use '3rd' as they are thinking that 1st and 2nd would be from one EASA country in another EASA country, leaving countries such as the USA being '3rd countries'.

Also, the other term is STAKEHOLDER - this means YOU! (anyone potentially effected by EASA)

(GK430 and 'rubber stamps') - I do know EXACTLY what you mean, it is a worry and of course discussion is somewhat directed by the questions they have asked, but on certain 'fronts' (eg; recreational flying and medicals) they might really be looking for an excuse NOT to get involved and may want to show 'x' % of feedback agreed - lesson learned from JAR perhaps which I think was an acknowledged mistake to cover recreational stuff, hence our NPPL soon after.

I've just received the latest Today's Pilot in the post today and I see there's an article concerning this very subject - that'll give me something to read over the weekend then!

isn't there a different expression that can be suggested? this one sounds more like for gold diggers (ok, flying is expensive, and we are looking for our piece of the sky to call our own ;) ). I think a lot of non-English speaking people would have a problem with this word.... I know it threw me the first time I saw it used and I had to read it twice over :bored: any suggestions? the FAR's use "person" I believe... even THAT sounds better then Stakeholders! :uhoh: where's my big dictionary......

Westy

Yes, I gagged on 'stakeholder' too, but I'm sorry to say I think its too late to 'worry about words' - they've obviously spent a lot of time and money already on those for starters. It's the main 'meat' course we need to tuck into, we've missed the hors d'oeuvres.

Having lived in France a while back I was very suspicious that if anyone downloaded the '.doc' comment form then just deleted the logo (thereby reducing the size down from approx 500KB to 15KB for retransmission back, the powers that be would not accept it as it was "no longer their form". (Some might think this suspicion is odd, but Believe me, that would have happened in France when I lived there!).

So I checked, and this morning received an email from them apologising and saying that the logo can be deleted and still be acceptable. (I notice they didn't say they'd delete it at the source - so I have asked them to amend that for a smaller logo now!)
Irv

same day service!:


Dear Mr. Lee,
As asked I've put a new, smaller logo into the form. Now, it should only take a few seconds to download the doc.

Best regards

IT Assistant
European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA)
Rue de Genève, 12, off. 2/17 B-1049 Evere

Only a few days left.....
 

I have just seen this on the Flyer forum (dont always have access to the internet in my job!), and was goint to start a new thread, but found this old thread with search.

So, Just to remind everyone that the closing date for comments is 31st July, so if you dont know about it or still have something to say, you need to get your finger out!!

Check out the EASA Consultation proceedure and have your say before its too late!!

Regards, SD..

am I imagining things or did they get rid of that dumb word "stakeholders" ? :cool:

Westy