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Finally managed to get through to the lady at the CAA after being on hold yesterday for over an hour where I gave up :D

She said its in the pile waiting to be signed and should be a couple of days :D

Dean :)

Deano

I feel for you. I've got two mates in the same boat. One has been waiting 6 weeks, the other 5 weeks. They've missed some cracking flying.

Another friend got his through in 4 weeks, having sent it off after the other two guys.:confused:

I would love to know how many people work in licensing and how long it takes to type in the details, stamp and sign the resultant print out. How much is it again?:(

Thanks Shaker

I have heard there are 2 people? and not working all week?

So I suppose they have their work cut out as it isnt only PPL licences they have to issue but NPPLs and renewals and also the Professional licencing, or is that another dept?
That said over 9 weeks suck though, but hey never mind as long as I get it soon, Im starting to chill a little now after almost divorcing the wife over it.


D.

In America, when you pass a flight test, the DE (Designated Examiner) types the info onto a form with one (or more) copies to be sent to the FAA and the remaining one placed directly into your hot little hand to be used as a temporary certificate until the real one comes through the mail. It's valid for 90 days and it can take a fair percentage of that time to get the real one.

That's the positive side :ok:

The downside is they still use carbon paper between the sheets. :ugh:



Good luck though

They can fly as much as they like. They just can't take passengers. I did some sums based on the number of licences they process in a year and came up with the answer that there must be two people. Obviously the service will be much slower in the summer, as they'll want to take their holidays whilst the schools are out, just like anyone else.

I take it that when you pass you are not given a "Temp" certificate, as it is here in the states.

Sorry to hear it's moving to you at the speed of gov't.

WHY are you people missing out on flying? As Gertrude said, all it means is that you can't take passengers. My money-grabbing flying school tried to charge me at student rate too, but I managed to do a deal on that. ;) But it doesn't cost that much more, and less than further checkouts when your licence arrives.

Looking back at my logbook, it looks like I spent the waiting time checking out on the Warrior and C172... a bad idea, TWO new aircraft is too many - and then flying - lots of it! :ok:

I spent the time waiting for my licence from the UK CAA in work. It was very windy and rainy outside anyway for a whole 5 working days... ;-)

Sent app off on the Friday and received it back exactly a week later. I nearly fainted.... (!)

But that was in January 1999 (bad winter). ;-)

If I did fly at all whilst waiting for my licence then it would have cost me student rate. No discounts. No joining the frequent flying group until licence arrived. Grrrrr.

Still I prefer the American Temporary certificates, had two of them issued within the space of four days in July this year. Great system! Still waiting for the real FAA CPL/IR certificate from Oklahoma though! ;-)

Best wishes,

Charlie Zulu

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My money-grabbing flying school tried to charge me at student rate too.

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If I did fly at all whilst waiting for my licence then it would have cost me student rate. No discounts. Grrrrr.


Why do you begrudge paying for an instructor to supervise your solo flying? Before your licence comes you are still students flying under the supervision of an instructor. You are flying on the privileges of his/her rating and ultimately he/she is responsible for the flight. Your instructor must remain close to the airfield and in some clubs have their other flying activities curtailed whilst their supervised students are flying. You need to be adequately briefed before you go and if going cross-country have received and signed for the solo cross-country briefing.

RogerF - I agree with all you say, however the point is that having passed the skills test, fullfilled all other pre-licence requirements, and applied for said licence it still seems unreasonable that the original poster can still only fly as a student and on his instructors licence over 2 months later.

Sure, he is not grounded, but it means that he is having to pay a higher rate to fly on his own (or with instructor) than he should be paying to be able to take friends & family as pax.

I can also imagine his frustration & his friends disbelief as he tells them yet again, "Yeah, of course I passed my test, but sorry, can't take you up - licence still not arrived yet". Reply - "Yeah, yeah, sure. Well if you are a pilot, then I'm a Brain Surgeon".
;)

If the CAA cannot meet there published service standards (10 working days I believe, they ought to allow Temporary Certificates to be ised by the CFI.

Mr. W

Completely agree with the issues of delay, frustration etc.

My point was about the idea that flight schools were ripping off students in this situation.

Yeh, I can see the reasoning clearly........

The applicant has passed all his / her tests and qualified for the license, but the Government can't get around to sending a piece of paper.

So it stands to reason that the applicant should be at the mercy of the flying instructors, hell its all about safety. :D

But just imagine the feeling of comfort you will have with that magic piece of paper in your pocket when it finally arrives.

Chuck

I havent stopped flying, I was just disappointd because I havent got in my hand something that I have worked damn hard to acheive, coupled with the fact that during my training period (just over 2 years) I lost well over a year to bad weather (most weeks I had a window of 2 days to fly and it was bad on those days, as soon as I go back to work the sun comes out) and the fact I cant take the missus flying or anyone else

And Im lucky enough that my FTO charges me solo rates whenever I fly so no harm done apart from the FI signing me out but not getting paid for it

BUT

Had a parcel this morning containing only what I can decribe as a hideously coloured wallet :{ and on the front it says JAR FCL Private Pilots Licence :O :) :E :ok:

Deano777

Get your feet back on the ground and does that grin need to be sooooooo wide?:ok: :) :) :)

Congratulations - now go and have some real fun.