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Aussie Andy 3rd Mar 2003 18:47

Hew - yeah, that makes sense... to be fair, we'd get just as much "practice" doing it on, say, 121.4 as on 121.5. It'd carry some extra cost I suppose (replicating the receive heads), and some might argue that it wouldn't have the same training impact, but I think if it were monitored by D&D just like the "real" thing, then it'd be a good way to overcome what you guys flying at FLxxx above us are describing as a real problem which is diluting the impact of guarding 121.5.

wallabie 4th Mar 2003 14:39

A 37 years old French Air Force captain stationed in Creil Air Force base is the one to be commanded for this action. He landed in Orleans, refuled and flew back to Creil having scrambled at 6:40 am.
Difficult thing he says was not to stall flying alonside the Cesna.

RomeoTangoFoxtrotMike 5th Mar 2003 12:40

This link may refer...

Dusty_B 5th Mar 2003 12:43

Bearcat

It clutters up the freq for the real events as above. If I were UK control I would politely tell them to go away. Any thoughts?
I apprieciate that so many practice calls saturate the frequency and make 'listening out' difficult for third parties, and I agree that a training frequency ought to be assigned.

However, in direct response to Bearcats suggestion (and a lot has been said since), the NOTAMs regularly ASK people to make training calls - not for their own benefit, but for the benefit of the D&D staff!

Fly Stimulator 5th Mar 2003 12:56

RTFM,

You seem to have set up an infinite loop between the two threads with each one pointing to the other. We could all be stuck here forever! :eek:

Aussie Andy 5th Mar 2003 12:59

Yes - I got stuck too ;) But it does sound like the guy could be described as a "nutter"... I say this because it takes one to know one..!:p

El Desperado 5th Mar 2003 15:52

Flying ATPs up in the Scottish Islands, we were quite frequently *asked* if we would take part in a D&D exercise.

Turn the transponder off, practice Pan on 121.50 on box 2, and state our last known position ten minutes previously. They would give us headings to fly, pin us down with DF and call us with their best estimate of our position. Sometimes they were spot on, sometimes hundreds of miles out..... in that case, we'd do it again. It certainly wasn't for our benefit, so it obviously cuts both ways.

And anyone who has 2+ radios and doesn't monitor 121.5 is asking for trouble. ..

Wireless 7th Mar 2003 22:44

Please forgive me, but what do you mean by "asking for trouble"
with 2+ boxes?

Cheers, Bill

Bre901 13th Mar 2003 08:30

link to a French Air Force news page with pictures

http://www.defense.gouv.fr/air/actu/...rash/sauv.html


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