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EZE64 1st May 2021 13:27

Easa ppl medical to self certify
 
Retired from the airlines holding an Easa sep rating. although not current in the aircraft, and have been advised that a handling test is required, the medical, under LAPL privileges runs to July 21.
I no longer need to hold a class 2 medical. Can anyone advise as to what would I need to do now. 1) can I self certify after July, or must I apply for an NPPL first? 2) or do i apply for an LAPL?
I also hold an FAA class 2 medical which I would also like to downgrade to either a class 3 or lower.
any advice please.

ETOPS 1st May 2021 15:14

Is your EASA SEP rating on a UK issued licence? If so just carry out sufficient training and then the skills test to revalidate. You can make a PMD declaration any time. If you are able to answer no to the medical questions you should end up with a UK part FCL SEP up to 5700kg.

MrAverage 2nd May 2021 07:21

Just to be a little pedantic, it's an LPC not a test.

EZE64 2nd May 2021 10:56

Yes, my Easa sep ppl was UK issued. So, No requirement to apply for a LAPL or NPPL? As I thought you could only self certify on an NPPL.

Meikleour 2nd May 2021 11:51

Since late 2019 a LAPL is embedded from your PPL and a PMD can be applied for both at the same time - I have just done that last month. In practical terms the revalidation criteria differ slightly.

ETOPS 3rd May 2021 02:08


Yes, my Easa sep ppl was UK issued. So, No requirement to apply for a LAPL or NPPL?
Correct - I had a UK issued EASA ATPL with SEP as I had light aircraft share as well as working for an airline. After retirement my 747 rating lapsed and I then only renewed my medical at Class 2 until last year when the pandemic closed down my AME. Thus I made a PMD online with the CAA and being able to answer "no" to all the questions got the 5700kg limit - the other PMD restrictions still apply.

EZE64 3rd May 2021 11:19

Ok, thanks for that. I have been in touch with my local flight examiner, and he says that depending on what medical I have on the day of the LPC I have either a full class 2 medical, or an PMD. will determine what he signs off.

There was a dispensation to do the PMD during lockdown, but I believe that that has now expired at the end of March. So I wasn't sure if I could still do it.
So, trying to establish if I can still go the PMD route. I normally fly a C150/172 or Piper Cherokee. daytime only.

Whopity 3rd May 2021 17:36


Ok, thanks for that. I have been in touch with my local flight examiner, and he says that depending on what medical I have on the day of the LPC I have either a full class 2 medical, or an PMD. will determine what he signs off.
The medical has nothing to do with what he signs off!
If you have a SEP rating he does a prof check for SEP and signs that off. The medical only affects the privileges you can exercise.

BillieBob 4th May 2021 10:04

What Whopity said, you do not need to hold a valid medical certificate to undergo a proficiency check. The Flight Examiners Handbook states:

​​​​​​Checks, tests and assessments of competence for rating or certificate issue, renewal or revalidation may be carried out on individuals whose licence or medical is out of date. However, before the flight, the examiner must point out such discrepancies to the applicant and explain that, irrespective of the result of the flight test, the applicant will not be able to exercise the privileges of the rating unless and until the medical certificate and/or licence has been renewed.

EZE64 18th May 2021 16:29

Great, thanks very much for that clarification.


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