Pilot fined for landing at a closed RAF Valley
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Fine is petty change. Didn't even bother turning up for his hearing. Maybe a long term affected Covid sufferer?
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Should have had his UK licence pulled. Arrogant SOB. Total prat.
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Not jumping to defend the pilot and am not a fan of internet Lynch mobs reading the article in full is a bit more revealing and highlights the differences between the UK and North American flying. North America everything is open and available whereas we demand permission for everything. The pilot had only recently moved to the UK from Canada so I can see how his expectations may have been different. Probably should have invested in some quality time with an experienced Instructor to show him the ropes.
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Originally Posted by S-Works
(Post 10972677)
Not jumping to defend the pilot and am not a fan of internet Lynch mobs reading the article in full is a bit more revealing and highlights the differences between the UK and North American flying. North America everything is open and available whereas we demand permission for everything. The pilot had only recently moved to the UK from Canada so I can see how his expectations may have been different. Probably should have invested in some quality time with an experienced Instructor to show him the ropes.
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Can you land at a closed military airbase in America or Canada then? Serious question.
I haven’t flown over there in years. |
Not when I was there...
Edit: You can, but you need to get PPR 30 days in advance, acknowledged 24 hours before and you need a "good reason". |
Originally Posted by S-Works
(Post 10972677)
Not jumping to defend the pilot...
At the time, as everyone knows, Wales was in complete lockdown so even if we disregard his total ignorance of "pilotage" like we were taught, he knew he couldn't land in Wales from England. He's a typical bell-end and the CAA have been proven once again to either be toothless or spineless when people flagrantly, deliberately break the rules. Pull his UK licence and all the piggybacks fall off too. |
Pull his UK licence and all the piggybacks fall off too. Getting off lightly is putting it mildly. If he had tried this stunt in the US I imagine he would be wearing an orange jumpsuit for quite a while. |
Originally Posted by S-Works
(Post 10972677)
Not jumping to defend the pilot and am not a fan of internet Lynch mobs reading the article in full is a bit more revealing and highlights the differences between the UK and North American flying. North America everything is open and available whereas we demand permission for everything. The pilot had only recently moved to the UK from Canada so I can see how his expectations may have been different. Probably should have invested in some quality time with an experienced Instructor to show him the ropes.
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Originally Posted by Non Linear Gear
(Post 10972916)
If you move somewhere else, you live by their rules. He broke the air navigation rules of this country. He also disregarded Coronavirus laws as mentioned.
Why are people always looking for a fight. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...... |
highlights the differences between the UK and North American flying. North America everything is open and available whereas we demand permission for everything |
Originally Posted by megan
(Post 10973291)
You'll get in a heap of trouble if you try as a civilian going into a US military base without prior approval, same as what happened here at Valley, no differences whatsoever.
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The question has to be asked "What were the RAF doing?" According to the article, the culprit was told he would have to stay at Valley overnight so ATC would be back at work and he could clear legitimately. So he got back in his plane and left anyway. How was he allowed to do that? Aren't the RAF police able to arrest someone who has trespassed onto their airfield?
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Can you land at a closed military airbase in America or Canada then? Serious question There is a private ski resort airport in the western US, which is very serious about do not land on our privately owned runway. I have read a number of news stories over the years, where a ski happy private pilot lands in anyway (probably with the: It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission approach), and is told that the plane will not be taking off - ever. I have read about planes being trucked out with the wings removed - a very strong message! But, it's private property, and well identified as such. From what I read in the news article, I would not rush to defend the pilot, It seems his choices showed disrespect on several levels. He was lucky to be allowed to fly the plane out. |
Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
(Post 10973646)
He was lucky to be allowed to fly the plane out.
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Prosecutor Elizabeth Dudley-Jones said Wood landed at the base - where Prince William was based with his RAF Sea King team - on a Bank Holiday Monday despite not having permission from the controllers in the tower. Magistrates chair Alastair Langdon said: 'These were very serious offences. |
Call sign would indicate some medical connection as most of the tails ending in MD are usually owned by Doctors .
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Originally Posted by fitliker
(Post 10974065)
most of the tails ending in MD are usually owned by Doctors .
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Originally Posted by fitliker
(Post 10974065)
Call sign would indicate some medical connection as most of the tails ending in MD are usually owned by Doctors .
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