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double_barrel 19th Jul 2020 07:12

The Killing Zone
 
Hi All.

In case this is not common knowledge, "The Killing Zone:How & Why Pilots Die 2nd Edition" is now available as an audio book on Amazon/Audible - personally, I prefer audio to reading and I use Audible to feed my sci-fi habit.

It is sobering reading/listening, especially for someone like me who is at the very peak of the killing zone with >200 flying hours to survive before my risk drops to background levels!

Maoraigh1 19th Jul 2020 19:41

Look at recent NTSB and AAIB accident reports. I think you will find a fatal or serious injury accident probability is not a concern for you.
Unless you are influenced by YT videos to copy without thought the flying they show.

Pilot DAR 19th Jul 2020 20:47


Unless you are influenced by YT videos to copy without thought the flying they show.
Click.

Self preservation skills must be honed in the environment of available amateur video!

Waltzer 25th Jul 2020 07:41

At 200 hours you think you know it all.

At 500 hours you know that you know it all.

At 2000 hours you know that you’ll never know it all.

double_barrel 25th Jul 2020 08:15


Originally Posted by Waltzer (Post 10845733)
At 200 hours you think you know it all.

At 500 hours you know that you know it all.

At 2000 hours you know that you’ll never know it all.

The Killing Zone powerfully makes the point that it's not just the number of hours. A 2,000 hour PPL who has done no additional training (IR, complex aircraft, CPL etc) has likely lost a bunch of skills that were directed at coping with emergencies and has slipped into a bunch of bad habits. The book shows that you are either actively working on enhancing your skills with additional training, or they are rapidly decaying.

Bergerie1 25th Jul 2020 08:43


Originally Posted by Waltzer (Post 10845733)
At 200 hours you think you know it all.

At 500 hours you know that you know it all.

At 2000 hours you know that you’ll never know it all.

So very true! Even as a commercial pilot with many years and hours of experience, you need to know you never know it all. I found during my career, there were always new things to learn. Humility rather than hubris is what is needed, and the willingness to learn from others.

rb14 13th Aug 2020 11:58

I think it should be compulsory reading, especially for those approaching the end of their PPL training.

A pilot friend of mine was recalling a particularly sobering moment flying IFR with his family on board. The details are unimportant but it was clearly one of those times when, as the saying goes, it is better to be in the pub, looking at the sea and wishing you were out sailing, rather than sailing in bad weather, looking at the pub on terra firma and wishing you were in it. Aaaaanyway, as he started his tale of woe, he said these words:
"I was around 2,000 hours. You know; that point where you think you know it all and then realise you know nothing."
That's stuck with me.

Flyingmac 13th Aug 2020 13:52

I know twice as much as nothing then. Time to pack in?

JTN 14th Aug 2020 13:17

The day after I finished reading that book I signed up for my CPL. Not for the licence - for the training.

BDAttitude 14th Aug 2020 13:47

So the top three reviews that come up on the big river are:

Many grammatical and logical errors

Potentially useful review of safety marred by errors, terrible editing

Very Bad Math Errors leading to wrong conclusions.
Especially the last item sounds if I would have a lot of fun with the book :}.

What do you think about them?


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