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ETOPS 9th Jul 2019 05:55
Lower Airspace Inquiry - Lord Kirkhope
 
The result of the inquiry into lower airspace design has been published.

Airspace design legislation is unfit for purpose finds APPG Inquiry » All-Party Parliamentary Group on General Aviation

It concludes that the current system is "unfit for purpose" and makes a number of recommendations for the future.

Here's a link to the full report...

http://www.generalaviationappg.uk/wp...hope-Final.pdf

scifi 10th Jul 2019 09:19
Let's hope they soon remove all Class A below 10,000 ft... Airways should be in the stratosphere, not in our GA airspace.

Genghis the Engineer 10th Jul 2019 15:49
The USA manages to put all class A above 18,000, and most airways below that in class E.

G

chevvron 11th Jul 2019 13:07
Originally Posted by scifi (Post 10514739)
Let's hope they soon remove all Class A below 10,000 ft... Airways should be in the stratosphere, not in our GA airspace.
The LTMA was the then equivalent of Class E below 5,000ft prior to 1976 with base levels (designed for things like Stratocruisers and Constellations) starting at 1,500ft.

On Track 13th Jul 2019 09:59
Why would you have class A below 10,000ft? That's just weird, weird, weird.

scifi 13th Jul 2019 18:20
S'truth Mate, some of these jokers can't even read a barometer...
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Jan Olieslagers 13th Jul 2019 18:40
Why would you have class A below 10,000ft?
Good question, but perhaps barking under the wrong tree?

cessnapete 14th Jul 2019 14:25
Originally Posted by On Track (Post 10517594)
Why would you have class A below 10,000ft? That's just weird, weird, weird.
Because in the UK we still have an system designed for old piston airliner E\O performance. Whatever is the reason for Class A above 2500ft between LHR and LGW?? A perfect set up for GA infringement.
Other than IFR arrivals and departures around airfields min Class A should be 10000 ft plus. They manage 18000 ft in USA with ease.

chevvron 14th Jul 2019 20:31
Originally Posted by cessnapete (Post 10518380)
Whatever is the reason for Class A above 2500ft between LHR and LGW??
As I said above, it didn't used to be until the mid '70s, only above 5,000ft.

chevvron 14th Jul 2019 20:33
Originally Posted by On Track (Post 10517594)
Why would you have class A below 10,000ft? That's just weird, weird, weird.
Years ago, I can remember frantic messages from Oz controllers protesting about the introduction of Class E; don't know what it replaced though.

On Track 14th Jul 2019 20:44
Chevvron, as far as I can recall it replaced class G.


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